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NZ: We're legally entitled to 10 days paid sick leave. If you're out for less than 3 consecutive days you can be asked for a medical certificate but your employer must pay for it. Even then I've never been asked for a medical cert.
this is an American problem I'm guessing
ETA: We've also got huge brain drain problems thanks to the 3 ring circus govt atm. So we could use a little immigration
Aussie here, paid sick leave but i've had employers ask for a certificate
I've never given them one. I'm a fucking adult you're employing
Exactly right. This isn't elementary school. I'd hand them an obvious forgery signed "Barney Piccolo's Mother."
That's hella sketch.
You are entitled to an arbitrary number of sick days here.
Where's here if you don't mind me asking?
Feddit.org is the German speaking instance.
I'm curious what that looks like in practice. I've heard about places that offer "unlimited sick leave" but really in practice that means that you're basically scrutinized every single time you take it, and people end up too scared to use it because they don't want to be seen as abusing the system. At least with a set amount, you're only really looked at funny if you go over. (or if you take it all at once, but then you need a medical cert)
So if you have a cold, and just need a single day, do need to produce a medical cert? What about culture-wise, do people look at you funny in that case?
Depends on your employer. Typically you call in sick if you feel sick. If it has been more than 3 days you get a doctors note. Upto a couple of weeks at which point health insurance pays for your wage.
You can be sick for months. The only weird thing is that you still earn vacation days while sick but cannot take them as you are sick.
Ok, ye! That sounds like a better system! I mean it's essentially the same, but our "couple of weeks" is cumulative, which is worse
In belgium we used to have 3 days of no-doctor-note sick leave for single days, but they were afraid of people taking it as an extra vacation day so it's been reduced to 2 now.
Sick leave with note is just errr not limited afaik though the social system does take over from your employer in terms of paying you for prolonged sickness.
The thing is that it was shown that those no-doctor-note days actually reduced the amount of sick days, even when used for things other than sickness.
Because if you drank too much the day before and can't come into work because of a hangover. You only need 1 day to recover. But if you need to get a sick note anyway, you might as well get one for an entire week.
Sorry but still not good enough. I don't plan out when I am going to be sick in the coming year or how many days it'll take me.
Meanwhile, I got written up for using more than 4 days in a year
At that point ACC would kick in. I think it's up to 80% of your pre illness income, and there are probably other benefits I don't know about
After 15 days, the government has to pay instead, so long as you can prove you are sick.
If you are un(lucky), you can basically be on permanent sick leave here.