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The Kings Demands (infosec.pub)

submitted 4 days ago by Maven@piefed.zip to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world

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Alt Text: The cartoon illustrates the problem of water use in the AI age: a farmer's child and his mother are pumping a little water from a well for their daily use. Two knights in armor, transporting a large, spherical water container on wheels, come by and say, "The King wishes to make more avatars of himself as a Ghibli character."
In the background, a castle sits enthroned on a hill. The cartoon illustrates the excessive water consumption required for AI model queries.

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[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They "plan to do it". They are not doing it. Try again.

Also, it's oracle, their word means nothing. Them "planning" is just either "tell them we're gonna do it and just don't do it" or "we have to have an alternative plan in case the government grows some balls and regulates us".

[–] Azrael@reddthat.com -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a growing trend in the AI industry through.

Consider this:

IF, Oracle follows through with that plan, other AI companies feel the pressure. If Oracle follows through with it, AWS, Azure, Google, and Meta look worse if they aren't disclosing or doing the same. OpenAI (which uses Azure) and Anthropic will also be dragged into that spotlight.

If Oracle says:

"We're not using your drinking water"

then lawmakers and residents in other regions will demand local data centers do the same.

AI infrastructure is insanely power and cooling hungry, and with growing backlash over water and energy use, companies can't afford to be sloppy.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I see you got confused again. Let me display your original statement:

Nowadays the big AI companies use closed-loop water cooling

[–] Azrael@reddthat.com -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You already said that and I already responded.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, you responded with something that doesn't support your original claim at all.

What you are trying to do is called moving the goalpost.

If you acknowledge that your original claim is bullshit and want to move the goalpost, it's fine, but you have to say that you're doing so.

Like this:

Yeah, I originally said that they're doing that nowadays, but after some research, I have found that my claim has no basis in truth. However, I found this post from oracle that I want to discuss about.

Then sure, I can choose to engage with this new goalpost or not. But I refuse to argue with a moved goalpost if you don't even admit that you moved it.

[–] Azrael@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know what, you're right. I did move the goalposts and then doubled down out of ego. I let my pride get the better of me.

I will admit that I originally made a claim with no credible evidence. This was wrong of me and I will not continue to dig myself into a hole.

Thank you for calling that out.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

That is actually a rare occurrence.

Thank you for being honest and logical