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I didn’t read it yet is it good lol punished-bernie punished-bernie punished-bernie

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[–] Pastaguini@hexbear.net 114 points 2 years ago (54 children)

Yes, it is true - if you look at the numbers as a whole, China does emit more carbon than America. But what constantly goes artfully elided in these statements is that their carbon emissions PER CAPITA is WAY lower than America’s. Of course they emit more carbon, like four times as many people live there. But what China doesn’t have are single individuals driving military grade gas guzzling SUVs two blocks to buy groceries twice a week. Also, most of their emissions come from industrial plants that produce all of the goods whose production WE OUTSOURCE TO THEM. The only reason their carbon emissions are so high is because western capitalists realized it’d be cheaper to move production there than keep them in the first world. Also, Bernie, who is making a massive investment in green energy? I’ll give you a hint, it’s only one of these countries. So it should be less about “America and China need to put aside their differences and work together”, a statement that tacitly implies that there’s something China isn’t doing that they need to start, and more about “America needs to catch the fuck up to China’s massive pivot toward green energy”.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

If he was actually serious about it and not just grandstanding too he would be addressing America and America only, because he's an American senator and can only impact American choices. His pushes for change need to be within America only. The only way an American senator exerts any power or influence in China is via imperialism, sanctions, economic violence. America doesn't need to worry about what China is doing at all, it needs to look internally and fix itself. Bernie needs to shut the fuck up on the fence sitting and focus his efforts where they could actually have an impact if he really truly cared.

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