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I just don't get it. What is the freaking problem of those directors, trying to rewrite federation into some kind of dystopian tech fascism?

I was annoyed by the first Star Trek movie by JJ Abrams, with those police cops. I was alienated by those anti-android resentments in Picard. I stopped watching Discovery after the first episode, because the main protagonist was sent to some kind of labor prison for disobedience, where prisoners regularly die. I didn't think it could get any worse but just watching the first 10 minutes of Starfleet Academy makes me want to bury the whole franchise [edit: and stopped watching]. Some drumhead court-martial, lifelong prison sentence, violently separating a mother from her child and some goons beating up a prisoner. How in the hell is this the same federation of TNG, Voyager and DS9?

Star Trek is supposed to be the ONE fiction with a positive, utopian view on mankind and the future. I totally get the attraction of dystopian settings but for that I can read some Warhammer 40k novels. This really makes me furious.

Fortunately there is still Strange New Worlds.

Please spoiler me, when this bullshit in Starfleet Academy gets turned around in some twist, because otherwise I will just ignore the show.

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[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

But would just every random human have access to a replicator 24/7?

They're cheap and easy devices. Almost every living space on a starship has one, as does every colony. The Enterprise originally shows up to deliver and install a batch of replicators for an entire colony in "The Survivors".

Like, that would be a tally in the Utopia column, but even then, the amount of waste and trash produced would be a problem.

Not really. Replicators are two-way devices. If you don't want something any more, you put it back, and it'll convert it the other way.

If you were ever worried about rubbish, you could plonk a replicator down, and just use it as an infinite hole to throw your rubbish into, until it went down to a desirable level.

Even in an absolutely ideal situation like that, it would end like The Good Place where getting anything you want burns out your dopamine system.

You have that, but unlike in The Good Place, it's not forced. You can spend all your time having fun, but eventually you would get bored, and want a challenge, and there are a great many challenges, between colonisation, and scientific achievements. There's no Janet to ask for all the answers.

There's also a social element. Culturally, the Federation values authenticity. Going to Vulcan to see a sunset is more value than seeing a hologram of a Vulcan sunset, much like how a photograph today means less than going to the same location it was taken, and seeing it for yourself.

Like I said I'm not a Star Trek expert, I just don't trust a bunch of rich people working for the one world government telling us the 99.99% of humans we never see are living perfect lives.

It's funny you say that, since they did abolish financial wealth in Star Trek, since at least the second show, for humans. Everyone gets the basics, and the rest depends entirely on who's offering.

Going to do authentic pre-23rd century Cajun restaurant doesn't cost buckets of money. Everyone can book and go there, anytime. It's first-come, first-served. There's no way to skip the queue, other than someone else pulling out, of asking them to give you their slot.

But it's a lot more realistic if not everything was as perfect as we're told, or even Starfleet officers believe.

At the same time, it is quite far into the future, and they have spent a lot of time and hard work cracking at their issues, with alien assistance.

Earth had to be basically rebuilt from the ground up, after all, and it's over 200 years past that. Technology makes a lot of the issues facing us today, trivial. If we had their replicators, for example, we would solve a huge amount of issues today. Part of the issue of hunger, for example, is logistical. A single, easily portable device that can create almost endless perfectly nutritious food, and remove waste, would be hugely beneficial to solving it from that angle. Or even their shuttles, if we could just ferry aid directly to the location without concerns over how long it would take to get there, or risks of it being waylaid.

For reference's sake, they're about as far from us, as the USA is from its original colonies, and a lot has changed since they revolted and became a country.