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I just don't get it. What is the freaking problem of those directors, trying to rewrite federation into some kind of dystopian tech fascism?

I was annoyed by the first Star Trek movie by JJ Abrams, with those police cops. I was alienated by those anti-android resentments in Picard. I stopped watching Discovery after the first episode, because the main protagonist was sent to some kind of labor prison for disobedience, where prisoners regularly die. I didn't think it could get any worse but just watching the first 10 minutes of Starfleet Academy makes me want to bury the whole franchise [edit: and stopped watching]. Some drumhead court-martial, lifelong prison sentence, violently separating a mother from her child and some goons beating up a prisoner. How in the hell is this the same federation of TNG, Voyager and DS9?

Star Trek is supposed to be the ONE fiction with a positive, utopian view on mankind and the future. I totally get the attraction of dystopian settings but for that I can read some Warhammer 40k novels. This really makes me furious.

Fortunately there is still Strange New Worlds.

Please spoiler me, when this bullshit in Starfleet Academy gets turned around in some twist, because otherwise I will just ignore the show.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (12 children)

I legitimately don't know:

But would just every random human have access to a replicator 24/7?

Like, that would be a tally in the Utopia column, but even then, the amount of waste and trash produced would be a problem.

Even in an absolutely ideal situation like that, it would end like The Good Place where getting anything you want burns out your dopamine system.

I dunno. Like I said I'm not a Star Trek expert, I just don't trust a bunch of rich people working for the one world government telling us the 99.99% of humans we never see are living perfect lives.

It's fictional so it could be real if the writers want it to be. But it's a lot more realistic if not everything was as perfect as we're told, or even Starfleet officers believe.

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

It's definitely easy to poke holes in the logic and suspend disbelief for so long. At the end of the day it's an idea that if all basic human needs are taken care of then what would we do?

The replicator is also the trash collector and dish washer. When you're done with your food you just put the left overs back into the replicator and when you "relieve yourself" it goes back into the replicator. Want new furniture? Replicator. Want new clothes? Replicator. So on so forth.

The only thing that is in short supply is energy, so there have been occasional mention of energy rations or credits that can be traded for services. There are still some resource limitations and you have to work or be productive and contributing member of society to gain access. But if you wish to sit around until you get bed sores then you can do that, you will probably be ignored and be an outsider and get visits from healthcare workers.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

And yet wine snobs still insist on working at a vineyard so they can have non-replicated wine, because it "tastes better".

Truly, I wish I had their problems.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah exactly, it's about what goes in, not what comes out.

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