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[–] klay1@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

i disagree. There are good and bad separate bike lanes.

In this one, cyclists will be overlooked a lot when crossing the lane. They are hidden behind parked cars.

edit: apologies in advance. I am glad you built this one, which is already a good step in the right direction.

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is literally how 99 percent of the separate bike lanes in NL are built. Check Not Just Bikes on Nebula.

[–] klay1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not correct. And misleading. I know not just bikes well. Infrastructure is way more than one bike lane. It is also about how traffic crosses a bike lane. The crossing is slowed down by speedbumps (?) or the bike path is elevated by a curb, etc. and a wide area of visibility is provided, so they are visible before crossing. And most importantly, the car drivers are taught about it. What i mean is, that like in this foto, might work well in the Netherlands, but not so much in other countries.

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

It is part of a much larger plan. But in the Netherlands it also started small, and took all the way until the 1990s when it started to scale.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think the idea is that the cars shield cyclists from potential accidents on the road.

[–] klay1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

you trade one danger for the other

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Though IMO anyone on a bike in areas where they must interact with cars should anticipate right turners going through their lane without even considering if there's a cyclist about to enter that space. Right of way only matters when looking back at an incident to determine if anyone should be fined or arrested.

I do the same shit while driving, just assume that anyone around me might actually be completely incompetent and could try changing into my lane at any moment.