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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I would love to put all the blame on the police... but the frand jury refused to indite? Who the hell were those people? What is wrong with them. Ignore the judges "instructions". Vote to indite. These things won't stop until you stand up for what is right.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Grand juries are just a puppet of the prosecutor. The rules regarding evidence are much less strict for a grand jury, and the prosecutor has full control over what evidence the grand jury is allowed to see.

The district attorney is typically an elected position, so the job has to consider politics when deciding whether or not to press charges. And some cases are politically inconvenient. The public wants to see a corrupt cop charged… But the police union has privately told the DA that if they bring charges against the cop, the police will stop cooperating as witnesses or collecting any crime scene evidence until the charges are dropped. Making the DA’s job impossible in other cases.

Essentially, if it would be politically inconvenient for a prosecutor to press charges, they can simply refuse to bring any evidence before the grand jury. And then when the grand jury refuses to indict (because they had no evidence) then the DA can hop in front of a news camera and go “oh sorry people, I wanted to press charges on this cop, but the big mean grand jury refused. But remember I tried! I’m tough on crime and am constantly fighting to keep our streets safe. Vote for me!” The grand jury is a very convenient scapegoat. They’re a faceless blob that can’t defend themselves in the news headlines.

Or inversely, if the prosecutor wants to press charges, they could literally just scribble “lmao yeah I did it, signed {defendant}” on a fast food napkin and present it to the grand jury as “evidence”. There also isn’t any defense lawyer at the grand jury proceedings, because nobody has been charged with a crime yet. So there’s nobody to go “hey the DA literally just wrote that confession themselves. That evidence wouldn’t stand up in court.” The old joke among lawyers is that the grand jury would indict a ham sandwich for murder if the DA wanted them to.

Make no mistake. If the DA wanted to prosecute this, the grand jury would have voted to indict.

Well, the trump doj has had a hard time get the grand jury to indicte. But that is just because they are trying to bring ridiculous cases and have incompetent lawyers. Lol. But I get what you are saying. I am saying the people on that grand jury need to ignore what they are being told and vote to indicte. The story was big enough that they couldn't have been unaware of it before they were picked. But yes, our legal system is a joke.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I know people who literally worship police. Like, the crying and reaching out to touch the sheriff during a parade type.

The cult is widespread and deeply entrenched.

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

From what I understand the Grand Jury reviews whether there is enough evidence to go forward with an indictment, not whether someone is guilty or not. I did a bit of digging and this event occurred Feb 6, 2024, and the Columbus Nebraska police did not start regularly wearing body cams until March 30, 2025. So that's what, 3 officers word vs 2 parents of the deceased? At the end of the day there probably just wasn't enough evidence. The Grand Jury trial was for prosecution by the State AG's office against the Columbus Police officers. Government prosecutors typically won't take a case to trial unless they are certain they will win, that's why they have something like a 95% trial success rate, not because they are good prosecutors but because they drop any they aren't certain of.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There was video from what looked like a body cam. It was out shortly after the incident. I believe the article had some as well. Needless to say, boiling water is not life threatening. How can it be argued that they feared for thier life.

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Because it's Nebraska police and they're always feared for their life.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

but the frand jury

I initially read that as fraud jury rather than grand jury