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I've seen several references to some sort of rift between the users of these instances today. What's happening?

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The "tankies" have the same platform as pretty much every real life communist organisation, lemmy.worlders have the same platform as your generic European social democratic party.

I'd have more respect for people just admitting that they're anti-communist rather than trying to redefine and obfuscate the meaning of the word.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No they don't, apart from edgy internet leftists who haven't studied any political theory outside of their sheltered internet canon. The modern internationale, Jacobin, etc, actively avoid the idiotic campism and autocratic baggage the tankies cling to as they relitigate the cold war. There has been a century of revisionist leftist theory since Lenin's "theory" about how everything Lenin does is great even if it is transparently hypocritical. Most of the leftist world has moved on, but tankies still live on that mountain.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This absolutely reeks of western exceptionalism. The "leftist world" is far more than what social democrats in Europe and North America think. Communists in the global south aren't going to be lectured by people from wealthy imperial core countries on what the correct kind of leftism is.

There is still a very deep colonialist mindset here, and one that won't be found amongst actual communist orgs that are politically active.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The absolute gorgeous irony of MLs saying they don't want to be lectured about politics.

But hey, I'm not your psychiatrist, so if you want to maintain this delusion that ML orthodoxy represents some singular, uncorrupted ideal which actually holds any relevant influence anywhere in the world, then by no means will I interfere with your monumental significance.

I'm not an ML, but go ahead. You have no point to make either way.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not anti-communist. I'm anti-authoritarian.

Being a communist does not imply supporting Russia, because Russia is not communist in any way, it's a dictatorship.

Being a communist also does not mean being pro China, because even if China implements parts of communism, communism does not imply eradicating the identity of minorities and censoring whatever the party does not like - i think communism, free speech and a multicultural society do not exclude each other.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Communism is authoritarian, dictatorship of the proletariat. That's a core part of Marxist theory. How on earth can you ever expect to get political power if you're not willing to suppress the forces of capital that will try to resist any attempt to build socialism?

There's also the concept of critical support where you can support something in principle but not support every facet of it, i.e. China. It's not always black and white.

I'm sure you mean well but your idea of communism does not make any sense to me. What does anti-authoritarian communism look like to you, and can you point to a real life communist org that is anti-China, anti-Russia, and anti-authoritarian?

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 8 points 1 week ago

There is a difference between standing for your core values and defending them vs crushing civil liberties and fucking up minorities. I would be very much china-friendly if they weren't so heavy on the censorship - both wiping out a lot of local cultures and suppressing critics, at home and especially abroad - and less biased towards the Han-Chinese population, and to be honest, I don't think the CCP actually needs those points to keep their power., these are self-serving actions to make sure that only themselves and noone else gets a say, like another communistic party that might do things different. Those points are a no-go for me, so i cannot be pro China.

Russia is not communist, not in the slightest. It's the embodiment of feudalistic hypercapitalism - no worker has had any power in Russia for a long time. Wars of Aggression aren't in the interest of the populace either - and it's not their first - especially when it involves staggering losses that are only second to WW2.

I also didn't say anything about GETTING power. I do not like the thought of violent uprisings, but i acknowledge that it might be needed for a change like that.