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Billie Eilish joined Bad Bunny in speaking out against ICE during her acceptance speech at the Grammy Awards, slamming the organization after winning song of the year for “Wildflower.”

The singer was bleeped as she said “fuck ICE,” giving strong commentary during the speech. “Thank you so much. I can’t believe this. Everyone else in this category is so amazing. I love you so much,” she said, standing next to her brother Finneas. “I feel so honored every time I get to be in this room. As grateful as I feel, I honestly don’t feel like I need to say anything but that no one is illegal on stolen land. And, yeah, it’s just really hard to know what to say and what to do right now, and I feel really hopeful in this room, and I feel like we just need to keep fighting and speaking up and protesting, and our voices really do matter, and the people matter, and fuck ICE. That’s all I’m going to say. Sorry. Thank you so much.”

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And the historical method was unethical and backwards.

I grew up in Turkey where people extensively talked about how Ottoman empire was great for conquering so much meanwhile the Kurdish population is treated inhumane to this day.

Conquest is Barbaric and was murder even back then. It's just a mix of "history is written by the victors" and "time makes people forget" that we don't judge all countries for colonization.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Someone that wants to take over 'your land' and kill you or enslave you probably doesn't really give a fuck about ethics. Especially cuz they'll probably consider your kin subhuman.

Can you pray to ethics? Are there 'acts of ethics' that are going to save you?

There is no country on Earth that isn't here or there without colonization, wars, and abundant 'crimes against humanity.'

And much more than just crimes against humanity! There is no country on Earth that isn't here without helping to kill +90% of the fucking wildlife and wild habitat on this planet.

Anyway back to the first paragraph I made. You're never going to convince those type of people that will burn you and rape you and enslave you that they should listen to your ethics and they should obey your laws and then your Justice will rain (reign) supreme all over the land with rainbows in the sky and the bears and the lions are hugging the piggies and the bunnies.