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[–] suction@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

At some point the allies decided to just fight fascism with force because the time to soul-search the Germans’ support for the Nazis just would have been a waste and delay the unavoidable.

There’s not any one seriously questioning today whether the world should have waited a bit longer to see if they could figure out just why the Nazis were doing what they’re doing…on the contrary, the consensus is that if the world had acted sooner, a lot of tragedy could have been avoided.

Americans have the chance now to stop these new Nazis - there’s no point in understanding evil.

[–] GrenadeSalad@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're conflating two different questions into one. 'Is there a time to punch a Nazi,' and 'If we study Nazis, can we figure out how to stop people from turning into Nazis that subsequently require punching.' I'm personally of the opinion that the answer to both is yes. There is absolutely a point in understanding evil because, as we are having so comprehensively demonstrated, Nazis are not a one-time problem. Letting things get to the stage where punching is required has consequences.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

In theory you’re right of course, but in this particular instance (MAGA) of Nazis, I think further studies would yield no interesting results. Now is the time to fight them (not necessarily yet with violence though). By that I mean that people need to get over the non-nazi candidate being lame and old but just vote for him instead of not voting. If that happens, the problem will be solved without a hint of violence. As long as they don’t start it, of course.

[–] fred@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Same with the confederacy, tbh. Biggest mistake was to treat them with kid gloves afterward.