Also if making a fuel (that is also key input for local fertilizer production for neighbour farmers) is important, H2 electrolysis at 5c/kwh input makes $3.50/kg H2. equivalent to above 17.5c/kwh EV charging, excluding the battery charger losses. It is 10x cheaper to move by pipe than it is to move electricity by wire, while also doubling as storage, and even better home energy applications by using waste heat for free hot water. H2 has same 2.4x advantage over ethanol cost, but you can produce an unlimited amount to sell to places that need more energy seasonally, or to blast stuff into space.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we didn't already have an electric infrastructure, hydrogen pipes would be spreading everywhere.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Renewables transition needs new distribution. Electric grid system in US especially and west in general has extremely poor supply chain for new transformers. If there is an effort in transmission/distribution expansion, an H2 economy is very competitive to electricity. Delivery by truck is feasible for rural homes. If new electric transmission costs 10c/kwh (existing national average charge is about 8c/kwh), then a $2/kg delivery charge is competitive. Pipelines would be 20c/kg, equivalent to 1c/kwh transmission charges.

Policy supports extortionist monopolists with incumbent climate terrorist fuels, and structurally made to stay that way, until we agree on whether war on Minnesotans is good or bad, and can move on to examining structural corruption issues.