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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 138 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

At least they have an AI-free option, as annoying as it is to have to opt into it.

On a related note, it's hilarious to me that the Ecosia search engine has AI built in. Like, I don't think planting any number of trees is going to offset the damage AI has done and will do to the planet.

[–] Magnum 35 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

lol what? Do they have some kind of statement addressing that?

[–] Deckname@olio.cafe 21 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Yes they addressed it here. its kind of understandable given that they want to exist and everyone else has AI... But companies... At least you can turn it off.

I want to know what economic forces are making it so that having AI, which costs money and very few users actually want, such a forgone conclusion. Who is paying them?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 20 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

At this point, not having AI would be a selling point.

[–] Magnum 16 points 4 hours ago

I wish they would have talked about how many teees you need to offset an ecosia AI search

[–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Well, I don't know about that.

My swiss hoster just started offering AI and says that their AI infrastructure is 100 % powered by renewables and the waste heat is used for district heating.

You could argue that LLM training in itself used so much energy that you'll never be able to compensate for the damage, but I don't know. 🤷

Do you believe them? Why?

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

While good, you should always keep in mind that using renewables for this means that power can't be used for other purposes, meaning the difference has to be covered by other sources of energy. Always bear in mind that these things don't exist in a vaccum. The resources they use always mean resources aren't used elsewhere. At worst this would mean that new clean power is built to power a waste, and then old dirty power has to be used for everything else, instead of being replaced by clean energy.

[–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

That's actually a very good point, thanks!

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago

On the other hand...the same private entity wouldn't buy the means to produce renewable power if they didn't want to power their AI center. So in the ends, nothing changes, and the power couldn't be used for other purposes because it simply wouldn't be generated.

However, as they did and are using it to promote themselves, they are influencing others to also adopt renewable energy policy in a way, no matter how small.

No, normally I am not that optimistic, but I am trying ^^"

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just happy they give the option to turn off the ai overview as a setting.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, luckily it's very easy to turn off.