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I honestly don't think of a President as more than a figurehead.
They might end up showing different things depending upon the party in power, but what goes on underneath, stays the same.
My main problem with this is, in 2018, customs were memed to be those that steal stuff on airport checkpoints and none of the above reached me.
Are they a separate governmental unit from ICE?
The abolish ICE movement is not new, it already existed throughout the first Trump presidency. It mostly stopped during the Biden presidency since he showed good will by reversing the most abusive of Trump's policies right away (proving he wasn't a mere figurehead and had the power to provide change), but the core rot of border patrol prison camps and treating migrants like cattle never stopped.
Yet his primaries were the best opportunity to send a clear signal that progressives were fed up with his inwards dehumanizing policies and his outwards genocidal policies. Not many seemed to care as he had no real opposition. At some point people have to take responsibility for being complacent, and instead of feeling fragile about it or personally attacked by it (this whole thread), understanding that this is about learning from the past, and figuring out what to do in order for this to never happen again in the future.
People knew extremely well what ICE was and did, since after Trump won a common "joke" on social media was threats to call ICE on the latinos or arabs that voted for Trump. I remember seeing many of those, and being disgusted at how some progressives will only support minorities as long as they support them, and treated ICE as a joke despite the murders still going on.
I guess I just didn't check out enough media avenues to catch those back then.
Perhaps the same as what's going on now with a lot of other people who are unrelated enough, with the incidents.
yeah. i've been attending abolish ice movement meetings since 2009. this isn't a new movement, it's just become something that's become so visible it can't be unseen at all. it's like how the Black Lives Matter movement was founded in 2013 but people think of it as starting in 2020.
too many people view things as starting when they find out about them, and too many people are too hard on people for genuinely not knowing something was going on. we have a horrifying torment machine that's killing us all and if we lose control of what the truth is we might be fucked for an extraordinarily long time.
so do tell people these things are going on and have been going on for a long time. tell people where you learned about this and where they can find out more. don't be a scold. don't tolerate anyone who flat out denies the opportunity to educate themselves or be educated.
we don't have time to relitigate the 2020 primaries to figure out which of the progressive voices was the one progressives should have rallied around to avoid the neoliberal wing continuing to control the dnc, but we do have to learn our lessons of how the vote was split handing biden the election, despite the fact he was bascially everyone's 4th choice out of 16. and most of all, we need ranked choice ballots so people can truly cast votes that matter instead of letting the machinery of the party continue the illusion of choice.
To be fair, media underreporting the suffering of minorities is part of the equation.