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[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Maybe I'm too stupid to understand this but how exactly would ICE know which white person to follow? Even if 1% (ridiculously high) of white people were doing this, they would still have to filter them out of the other 99% of white people.

Why would you need to use GPS to deliver food to a house that your friend lives in? How would a piece of paper help you find your "friend's house" that you don't know without the GPS? Why does your friend not just use a grocery delivery service?

To me this story sounds completely far fetched.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I like your user name for this comment. It’s a fair assessment though. The problem is we would not have had street executions on our bingo cards for the last 6 mos either. Street executions without the Floyd reactivity even. Or, at least, the utter lack of reporting on it.

Per MN posts on Substack, ICE is camping the street where they killed the nurse. My guess, to prevent a show of support with a memento memorial pileup of items and such.

For this, it’s within the realm of possibility, and given how little is being reported on some benefit of the doubt will be extended. Shit is falling off the rails over here. There’s no security. No real governance. Just a lot of poor people with no health insurance moving on inertia and denial while a small amount of others try to push back from the streets. Meanwhile, 1/3 of us cheer for or make excuses for it.

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Okay but still - imagine you are an ICE agent. Why would you waste your time and effort having to handle and filter the hundreds of thousands of white people on the incredibly low chance of grabbing someone, when you can just go where you know there will be undocumented people? There is no shortage of illegal farm hands, maids, restaurant workers, etc., you would be able to go directly where you expect them far more easily than a 0.01% chance of finding someone on a grocery run to a mexican family.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

How much of this is actually about immigration?

That is the question that needs parsing out first. Why care about kids in frog suits sitting in a street, in relatively small numbers, outside of an ICE admin center in Portland? Why Minneapolis? Why not Springfield Ohio where they’re supposedly “eating the cats and dogs?” Let’s check out some 2020 census data.

Dearborn Michigan (Detroit suburb) has a 54% population of middle eastern and North African ancestry. Detroit itself is 9.5% white. Or, a 90.5% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants. Or of maybe finding actual illegals based on community movement factors.

Milwaukee WI is 37.8% black, 20.1% Latino, and 5.2% Asian. Or, a 63% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants. Philadelphia is 38.3% black, 14.9% Latino, and 8.3% Asian. Or, a 61.5% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants. Or, again, of rooting out potential illegals based on community movement factors.

Meanwhile, Minneapolis is 18.9% black, 10% Latino, 5.8% Asian. Or, a 34.7% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants.

But, what’s the difference? Voting and politics. Minnesota is bluer than blue. Minnesota even stayed blue as a lone holdout during the Reagan years. Meanwhile, WI, MI, OH, and PA are all swing states. They’re not 100% done with the voting quite yet. Good odds that’s why they’re not in Detroit or some such instead.

If this was about immigration or rooting out illegals they would have never been concentrating in Minneapolis to begin with. Never mind the part regarding Walz daring to run agains Cluster B Personality personified: Trump. Of note, Cluster B requires a nemesis to work against, it’s part of the personality disorder sets.

You’re attempting to argue logical immigration enforcement where none exists.

While dragging off nonwhite people is a piece of the action that is indeed taking place, this is a multifaceted, intentional endeavor that is never not highly political regarding “enemies” of the present administration.

ETA: also consider the hires. If they were good players with solid backgrounds their faces wouldn’t be hidden. You are also assuming the agents themselves are personally functioning on logical immigration enforcement.

Take a deep dive into conservative social media. It’s a lot of meme sharing about how “we are done with you”, “we are not the same”, “talk is over”, “purging the non American leftists”, and such. Imbue that mentality into the present ICE hires and the behaviors make more sense.

[–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why does your friend not just use a grocery delivery service?

I think it's pretty easy to draw connections among "unable to leave house in fear," "unable to work," and "unable to afford food/grocery delivery services."

Also, digital fingerprinting would easily identify individuals who would not deliver groceries to their immigrant neighbors. Pick out the more vocal members of the remaining people, find which ones are active in community social media groups, and you have a list of people that is much smaller than just "white people."

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Ok but now it's not that they're being followed from the grocery store, it is hypothetical digital profiling that is the problem. Even this is more resource intensive than the direct approach, i.e.: they would have an easier time snatching "random" illegal immigrants by driving up to construction sites and harassing general labourers, or coming in the back door of a restaurant.

If they are able to commit resources to deep surveillance of the entire white population on the off chance of catching someone delivering food to an illegal immigrant, then why would they not commit a drone to follow the individual the whole way to their destination? Again, this surveilled individual apparently knows where they are going "by paper", without GPS, not by memorisation of an address. Why? The story is simply nonsense.