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[–] fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 90 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Can't say I'm sympathetic to anyone who uses TikTok, that platform has been a vacuum of people's intelligence and attention span for years. You reap what you sow.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 44 points 21 hours ago

Unfortunately everyone else also reaps in this case.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

With that mindset, we are all doomed. I get the desire to shit on them, just like the people who haven't left X. But for every person who knows about the manipulation and censorship, I guarantee there's another who's ignorant of it, and will be shaped by it unwittingly. This is not a good thing and having that mindset only serves to allow others to get away with this.

Tell people. Save this article and share it. Remind people of the fuckery behind the scenes whenever you get an opportunity. Be annoying about it. The people who are tuned out are the ones who need to hear it the most. Tell anyone you know using tik tok. Try convincing someone you know to quit the app. It's better than telling them to reap what they sow. because we all lose when anyone is convinced the propaganda is real

Trump's whole thing is making his own reality. If you don't challenge that reality every time he tries to lie or cheat, then it will only get worse and worse.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

But for every person who knows about the manipulation and censorship, I guarantee there’s another who’s ignorant of it

I wish it were 1:1. Probably more like 1:20.

Tell people. Save this article and share it. Remind people of the fuckery behind the scenes whenever you get an opportunity.

The idea is sound until you consider that people get into their own bubbles. People who avoided tiktok because they saw the imminent danger are NOT in the same space as people who are all-in. So telling the people around you is great, but 9 times out of 10 you're going to be preaching to the choir. The vast majority who need to know will never hear, and even if they do, it will immediately be met with a response ranging from "ok boomer" to "leave me alone."

This is legitimately a HUGE problem, and we're seeing lots of protests NOW because of the young people who grew up in a media environment that drove home how important values, respect, and human decency were, but given 10 or 20 years, the children who grow up in this new media landscape are going to be VERY different.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

While I do think everyone should avoid short-form video because it's junk food for the mind, non-users have to care about it because enough people use it that it steers public opinion.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

TikTok was the big left-liberal influence platform in a sea of neoliberal, conservative, and outright fascist platforms.

But one too many Tokkers posted bad things about Israel and/or good things about Iran, Venezuela, and our immortal enemy China. So President Brandon had to shut that shit down.

Now the US branch of the platform is back in line with the rest of US media

[–] fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't care what political affiliation it was to be or whatever.

It's still all brain-drain to me.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, tell it to the folks watching CBS Evening News. Or reading the New York Post.

For some reason, its only the newer forms of media that ever take flak as "brain rot". As though the style carries more weight than the substance.

[–] username123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

With all due respect, I think the problem is essentially two wrongs don't make a right. Can we have media that doesn't suck and enough proles consume it willingly? Idk. I had hope once upon a time, but we've sold it hard to kids that it's uncool to care about anything for more than 5 seconds, and the absolute coolest to fry your brain and consume only impulsive fantasy bs. Beyond that, earlier generations convinced themselves that you don't have to think critically or feel bad about stepping on others as long as it's what your in-group is doing. So idk what the answer is, all I'm saying is all those media options suck ass. 

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Can we have media that doesn’t suck and enough proles consume it willingly?

Definitely. The things that "suck" in media are profit engines that can only exist in parallel with the things that proles benefit by consuming. If you have a channel that's "Oops, all ads!" your user base shrivels up into a tiny nugget of Home Shopping Channel die-hards. But if you have a channel that's purely public services, it relies on public sponsorship (either directly through membership or indirectly through state aid). It can't operate at a large profit or justify outside private investment to rapidly expand.

There's always a balancing act between content that benefits the audience and content that benefits the broadcaster.

Beyond that, earlier generations convinced themselves that you don’t have to think critically or feel bad about stepping on others as long as it’s what your in-group is doing.

That's not true. That's never been true. This isn't an issue of generational divide. This is an issue of local communities partitioned by their access to modes of communication and the regional influence of the neighborhood's industrial powerhouse.

One of the most reliable indicators of a voting district's partisan affiliation is the presence of Oil & Natural Gas industrial activity. Like, if you want to talk about why the Gulf Coast states, Ohio, and central Pennsylvania are bleeding red, it centers heavily on their enormous concentration of O&G facilities and staff. Energy sector workers are uniformly predisposed to the party that supports expanding O&G exploration, exploitation, refinement, and export.

These people aren't above "thinking critically". They just see where their bread is buttered (red state plutocracy generally benefits from Oil-Friendly Republican administrations) and vote accordingly. It's the grim math of "Do I want a five/six figure bonus at the end of the year?" which party organizers and their business allies in the state make abundantly clear during election season.

Your problem isn't that people don't think critically, its that they do and the conclusions they reach aren't favorable to your partisan allies.

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

My girlfriend used to be on TikTok a lot. Her page was mostly trans news and gloom. It used to be a pretty far left platform like lemmy, but it’s corpo owned, so now we’re here.