THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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② If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I voted for someone who opposed genocide & actually had a policy of healthcare as a human right. Did you vote for that Dick Cheney praising coconut who pledged her unconditional support to an apartheid country carrying out a genocide?
And what's Jill Stein doing all this? Where is her resistance movement?
Or will you finally realize that she's like a groundhog who only pokes her head out of the ground once every 4 years
The result of your vote was what's happening now, and a toddler could've seen it coming.
Tell me, am I supposed to believe you didn't see it coming? Or am I to believe that you think things are better currently than they would have been under Harris?
Either way I ain't buying either line of bullshit. You voted for this. Jill Stein is a huge fraud and everyone knows that. Including you.
Also keep in mind your decision to try and change the subject from the post is why everyone is rightly calling you out.
No I saw it coming. You didn't see it coming. People on the left screamed he was an authoritarian while saying we should criminalize speech, banned people for being critical of the DNC, etc. People like you warned others about the authoritarian while acting like a bunch of authoritarians. You voted for indiscriminately slaughtering civilians. You're getting what you supported.
Lol I don't believe you're that delusional, comrade
Don’t bother. They’re either in Russia or a useful idiot to those in Russia.
Either way you’re wasting time. Half these cunts are in Russia, a decent vote turnout wipes the rest and they aren’t by your side when the shit hits the fan.
Seriously doubt that twat was even 18 in 2024
You voted for a known GOP spoiler candidate who takes money from fascists while Trump was out there openly threatening to use the military against his own people. Let's not forget that he also said that immigrants "poison our blood of our country" as if they're a fucking virus.
None of you third party voters, apathetics, or Trump-voting swing voters gets to pretend you didn't know that he was a white supremacist.
You knew what Trump was planning. You chose to throw a fit instead of voting for the lesser evil, which was the only legitimate choice we had as voters.
You enabled fascism in this country because you were too immature to do the hard thing. Kamala was a lot of things but she wasn't going to order ICE to invade our fucking cities.
Anyone can find fact-checked information about Stein here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
Your narrative falls apart as soon as anyone does fact-based research.
Kamala Cheney pledged her unconditional loyalty to Israel. She wouldn't even let a Palestinian speak at the DNC convention:
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5086924/the-dnc-didnt-let-a-palestinian-american-speak-the-uncommitted-movement-took-note
So you voted for the indiscriminate killing of civilians. You're getting what you voted for. Simple as that.