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[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 302 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Once these countries leave, they'll never go back. And then the rest of us get better alternatives to this enshitification model.

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 153 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Seriously, enshitification is the only thing US companies do well these days. They just dig deeper moats around their walled gardens because they’re too greedy to make decent products that people actually want.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Enshittification, AI slop and fascism are America's greatest exports. And that's not even a joke.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We grow pretty good weed too, that isn't nothing.

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not exported overseas though.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I have a feeling it probably must be though. What other countries are pumping out literal metric tons annually?

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My understanding is it's only legalized on a state level and not federal. So I guess if they're shipping it from an international airport or by sea the feds might see that as drug trafficking.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I absolutely mean smuggling

I live in Maine and the market is so flooded nobody can even grow straight for the black market and compete anymore, it's all spills over from licenced grows. $80/oz for top shelf if you look around a little, $100 if you don't. It's almost impossible to spend more than $200. That has to be having farther reaching effects.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I’m on medcan in Australia. It gets imported from everywhere but I’ve yet to come across a US grown flower.

All of the North American stuff I’ve gotten is Canadian.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think enshitification is a product of public traded companies promising infinite growth, not necessarily a problem of US only companies.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

It's also a consequence of low taxes on capital gains and corporate profits.

When those taxes were higher it made more sense to reinvest the profits back into your own company. You'd build a reputation and a structure that would pay out you and your family for a hundred years.

Now the dream is to build up a company just enough to sell it to some megacorp and cash out asap, with you and your family living off of investment money that only increases over time.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

While I would love to see them never going back, here in Germany, all it takes is some corrupt politician taking a huge bribe from a lobbyist and swoosh, they are back to Microslop.

Edit: Knowing our little corrupt fuckers in charge in German politics, the bribe probably doesn't even have to be mediocre.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In Australia a lobbyist would get that for around 10k AUD from Labor and probably 6 from the Coalition.

Our system (in the end it's the same no matter where you are) is so fucked up :/ Kids need to learn empathy and selflessness as the most important school subject.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Once these countries leave, they’ll never go back.

Look up LiMux and the massive Microsoft deal that followed.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

No, please stop with this garbage misinformation. Microsoft made a (suspected) under the table deal with the Munich government at the time to setup a Microsoft office in Munich if they switched back to Windows.

That's what the news reported on endlessly. That's the narrative that keeps getting falsely repeated over and over, and no one ever checks the BS stories they spread.

The rest of the story didn't make headlines, where the new incoming Munich government said "hell no!" (prob in German) and continued the Linux rollout.

Today the environment is a mix of Linux and Windows, but they already have a large focus on FOSS software.

Despite the astonishingly stupid decision to roll their own in-house distro (LiMux), the program was massively successful, with Linux users filling only 40% the number of tickets the Windows users did.

Edit: I'm correcting something I said, they didn't "continue the Linux rollout" as they had already covered most of their systems. The current status is a mix of Windows and Linux, because they vetoed the rollback to Windows in 2020.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You first

Are you afraid to provide any reference to your claim? Do you need extra time making up stuff?

"Die 43 000 städtischen Mitarbeiterinnen und Mitarbeiter nutzen also mittlerweile wieder Word, Outlook und PowerPoint [...] Einfacher sei die Software-Frage bei den Servern im städtischen Rechenzentrum zu beantworten. Zwar haben man durchaus auch Windows-Server, aber die meisten laufen mit Linux, so Gernhardt." (29. Juni 2025) https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/muenchen-verwaltung-open-source-it-microsoft-li.3256886

So Linux on servers, Windows including MS Office on desktops. The migration to Linux on desktops was completely reversed.

So where is "“hell no!” (prob in German) and continued the Linux rollout"? Where has it been "garbage misinformation"? Where are the exact stats about opening tickets? After all, you claim "Linux users filling only 40% the number of tickets the Windows users did". That's pretty specific.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Are you afraid to provide any reference to your claim? Do you need extra time making up stuff?

No. Just calling out your double standard. If you didn't provide sources for your statements, then it's rich for you to demand sources from me.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-not-windows-why-munich-is-shifting-back-from-microsoft-to-open-source-again/

https://youtu.be/XBRh2G29NNE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux

"In May 2020, it was reported that the newly elected politicians in Munich, while not going back to the original plan of migrating to LiMux wholesale, will prefer Free Software for future endeavours."

There are no official numbers, but the rollback to Windows was halted. It's estimated that it's currently a mix of Linux and Windows. And it's been acknowledged that the move back to Windows was almost entirely political due to influence from Microsoft.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

“In May 2020, it was reported that the newly elected politicians in Munich, while not going back to the original plan of migrating to LiMux wholesale, will prefer Free Software for future endeavours.”

So you lied. You claimed that Munich said "Hell no" to Microsoft Migration but here you spell it out yourself: The politicians did sell out to Microsoft and only newly elected politicians partially reversed it.

They use Windows and MS Office on desktops to this day and use Linux on servers and some FOSS tools ON WINDOWS DESKTOPS.

I was right, you lied.

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That deal that totally had nothing to do with Microsoft relocating their headquarters closer to Munich

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Bavarian state government is still entirely in Microslop's pocket

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not surprised. From what I've heard from pretty much every German person I've talked to, Bavaria is basically their Texas (read UP if you're Indian, not sure about analogies for other countries).

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Im not an expert on this, but it seems like Ms was worried that success of Limux would be the drip that starts the trickle so to speak. It made sense for them to do whatever it took to patch that leak.

Things have really changed since then though. Valve has been very successful in a Linux end user environment, and Eu is becoming disenfranchised from the US rather than Microsoft specifically.

I think Munich's motivations were financial, but Frances will be ideological.

With these things in mind, the calculus has changed. That doesn't necessarily mean France won't fail, but id be surprised if Microsoft pursues them in the same way.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Don't listen to that other commenter. They're wrong about the Munich LiMux story. It keeps getting repeated but it's not correct.