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[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's with this apologism for feckless liberals?

It wasn't intended to absolve him from the responsibility of having to do something, if that's how it came across. In the context of people calling on him to mobilise the NG and use them to drive out ICE, I wanted to point out that it would be akin to starting open civil war, and that any responsible commander would and should grapple with that decision. It's not about excusing so much as understanding.

sending state police to brutalize protestors at the site of the most recent public execution.

I didn't know that at the time I made the comment. Like I said, I was mostly seeing people call for military action left and right.

I don't give a fuck if he feels a heavy weight, it's nothing compared to the families of the dead.

And if he orders the NG to deploy against ICE, there will be even more dead and more grieving families as a result of his orders. I think you're a little too quick to dismiss the weight of that decision. Yes, people will die if he does nothing as well, which is why he has to do something. I'm not excusing his inaction.

In an escalating time of violence and rage, I'm trying to remind people of their humanity: Pressure him to do his job, by all means, but do so in full awareness what you're asking of him.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the most acceptable course of action at this point would be having the NG shadow ICE everywhere they go, with instructions to protect the safety and civil rights of the protestors and other humans (regardless of citizenship status).

Then the ball is in ICE's court. Let them be the ones who escalate.

But yes, Tim Walz's approach so far has been to sic his state police on the protestors and send the NG out for donut-and-coffee photo ops while doing nothing to meaningfully protect the citizens. I won't give him a pass on that, it's the job he signed up for and got paid our tax dollars to do.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I won't give him a pass on that, it's the job he signed up for and got paid our tax dollars to do.

And you shouldn't give him a pass either. Let's hope his heart is in the right place and his courage will catch up.