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"Pwease weave. Pwetty pwease."
Grow some fucking balls and DO something besides jack your massaging jaw, you useless old fuck.
Walz is a typical democrat.
He talks a big game and has great bluster.
but when the cards hit the table, he rolls over, shows his belly and shits himself
He should have activated the national guard weeks ago. He should have had them on the streets everywhere that ICE was at, Following them where ever they went, with orders to intervene anytime they stepped out of line.
He should have been ordering every state law enforcement agency to follow ICE, and arrest them every time they abducted a child, every time they assaulted an innocent civilian, anytime they've murdered an innocent person.
but instead of doing anything useful and proactive to protect his state, he keeps going on twitter and begging "pwease mistur pwesident, stahp hwurting my pepulz. pretty pwease?"
Walz is a Zionist. Getting Israel ahead is his game.
I don't know why you think this is the secret that ends his career. Dems fail the purity tests of the type of people that actually care about that and voted Trump by not showing up. Or in even worse cases, went full horseshoe theory and actually voted Trump.
Refusing to vote for the dogs of a genocidal regime is less "purity test" and more "basic humanity".
No, see, you were given a choice.
a) Reasonably tepid president's vice president. No great achievements, but no strongly notable transgressions against the people of the country. Policies not actively progressive but not actively hostile. Supports Ukraine. Supports Israel. Runs on the platform of moderate politics.
b) Multiple times convicted felon, strongly suspected of being a pedophile and child trafficker. Catastrophic first term. Weak foreign policy in first term, already schmoozing up to military enemies of the country. Supports nothing but his own pocket.
How is that not a purity test? Even if you're a normal person that is sternly anti-Israel, you have singled out one issue in which one candidate performs (probably, we don't even know) worse than the other one. And still outperforms the other one on all other issues unless you're a ten toes down white supremacist with the sole life goal to make sure people with a darker skin color suffer and a deeper pocket prosper. That's what we call, say it with me, a purity test. Your refusal to go out and vote is complicity in the murder of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. Don't preach to me about humanity, you're probably not even from the US.
Thing is, I care about humanity, not just "the people of the country". Therefore, "supports Israel" is a dealbreaker.
Supporting the existence of Israel is supporting genocide. I will never vote for someone with such blood on their hands. If you would, especially to maintain your own comfort and privilege, then your soul is compromised.
But "supports Russia" is fine I suppose?
Lots of humanity in "child sex trafficker", "pedophile", "rapist", right?
Delusional. Stop pretending you care about humanity. You care about this one specific issue.
Wtf are you talking about Blue MAGA? Trump also supports Israel. I didn't vote for him.
Unless you want to play the "you voted for him by not voting for Holocaust Harris" game. Which means I also must have voted for Holocaust Harris by not voting for Trump. Infinite vote glitch!
Interesting. Harris gets a nickname but Trump doesn't. There's almost an undertone suggesting you think one side is worse. Let's face it - I understand it, you understand it, by not going out to vote, you are signalling that you are a-okay with the likelier candidate winning, that likelier candidate is Trump. You are complicit, and you're even worse than the MAGA freaks because you're desperate to create plausible deniability. "Oh I didn't vote for him!". That's great. You didn't vote against him. Donny is pro-Israel? Boy that makes it even better. You made a conscious decision that while the only issue you care about at all is equal between both candidates, one is a convicted felon rapist pedophile, and the other is not, and you said "well I'm not willing to choose between that too". Mask on the floor, facade ends. Your humanity extends only from Egypt to Israel and stops exactly there, I guess Trump is lucky Epstein Island wasn't on that stretch. But hey, okay, so we were talking about purity tests originally. This still is a purity test. Kamala didn't check a single box and she was suddenly as deplorable of Trump. That is the very definition of purity testing.
I don't understand this primitive obsession of tankies with Israel-Palestine. Is it because the anti-capitalist, progressive left has been hijacked by far left pundits like Hasan Piker?
Nope, both sides are equally evil. Terrible Trump? Idk sounds kinda lame. He, Biden, and Harris all belong in the meat grinder, but I'd settle for the Hague.
Didn't read the rest of whatever you said.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
lmao ok
Oh look, someone using their imaginary narrative of things no one said to try and derail the topic.
Gee, I wonder what group of people would have a vested interest in trying to derail this topic, by claiming people are calling for blood in the streets.. while ICE is literally pouring gallons of blood in the street every day that they never seem to have a single critical comment on. 🤔
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
Please do delete Lemmy, we don't need liberal apologists here.
Hes not even a fuckin American. Just another foreign agent shit stirrer.
That's the American way. Next they will SLAM the government and nothing will happen.
I mean he called in the Minnesota National Guard.
...and then what?
Nothing. Because that's all Democrats will ever be good for: theater.
At the time you made this comment he'd called in the MN guard... a day before.
Currently the guard is feeding protesters so IDK man, that's actually pretty big.
No, it's not lol, it's completely inconsequential. They didn't protect the protestor whose hand was blown off by ICE's use of "less lethal" munitions this morning. I don't give a fuck if they pass out donuts and do some PR segments, there's no evidence to suggest they're meaningfully on our side... yet. Especially after state police brutalized protestors at the site of Alex's murder.
I'm eager to be wrong. I think it's a vital turning point so I very, very, very much hope to be wrong. But I don't see it yet.
Serious question, what would demonstrate they're meaningfully on our side to you, but wouldn't be a literal civil war? Because short of that, federal troops feeding protesters is a big deal.
Some places to start could be
I think those would all fall short of "a literal civil war".
I see federal troops feeding protestors as an attempt to maintain the perception of the state as a legitimate authority without actually needing to take any meaningful action. "Look guys, they're with us!"... except when the bullets / less-than-lethal projectiles start flying.
Is a great thing, I hope they do this (though if they do follow through I suspect trump will order them to stop)
Would unfortunately be a civil war thing - it's not open conflict, but it would require the subversion of federal systems (the emergency warning systems) to actively sabotage federal troops. I don't know about the free speech rights, but generally speaking the military has sharp restrictions on what counts as free speech.
He was killed two days ago and the court hearing to attempt to ensure BCA has access to the site is ongoing as I write this so hopefully there will be progress soon!
Another serious question (and setting aside the question of legality because who fuckin' cares at this point), what resources should the state put out to support this? Having worked with several state governments, there's not really "spare cash" floating around to enable this kind of unbelievable expenditure, so it's somewhat limited to an eviction freeze (which is almost entirely out of the state's control)
Not really a national guard thing but fair enough. I've seen some limited vids from there but most of what I've seen was one violent interaction then the police fled, was there more than that? I've seen people say they came back that evening but I can't find a good source for that.
I too see 1. as the unambiguous thing to do, follow ICE, record everything. Be a visible deterrent. I don't think Trump has the right to order them to stop and I don't think they are inclined to listen to Trump over the interests of their own community.
Though being around the question is what is the guard response to an event like the Pretti shooting would be if they were there documenting things... Being in that scenario with guardsmen might be impossible to both avoid conflict and provide an acceptable response. Guess we would have to hope that the inherent risk of escalation tempers the ICE people, but they haven't exactly shown themselves to have that sort of restraint...
Unfortunately the national guard was federalized, so Trump is their direct commander and has every right to order them to stop doing things like recording other groups. I think the hope is that the Guard presence would outright prevent another execution, I don't know how accurate that hope is but it's a far better option than we have right now.