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Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee (arstechnica.com)

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Now, if you want your new Tesla to steer itself—while you pay attention to the road—you will have to pay for FSD. Until the middle of February, that can be done for a one-time fee of $8,000. But starting on February 14, that option goes away, too, and the sole choice will be a $99/month FSD subscription. But probably not for very long. Last night, Musk revealed on his social media platform that “the $99/month for supervised FSD will rise as FSD’s capabilities improve.

I don't own a Tesla, but a $99 monthly subscription feels like quite a hefty price tag.

According to a Reuters report on this topic, this change affects only Canada and the US.

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[–] pageflight@piefed.social 62 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I'm horrified by subscription features on hardware, but if Tesla wants to pour gasoline on its dumpster fire, great.

Out of curiosity, $8,000/$99 = 6yr 9mo.

As commenters on Ars have pointed out, lane keeping is a pretty standard feature at this point.

[–] dxgsthrr@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

My 2021 MG5 (itself a 2019 Roewe EI5) had lane centring (pro pilot) as standard. A 2026 Tesla can't match it for standard ADAS tech?! Unbelievable.

Surely they will not be able to get 5 stars from Euro NCAP now?

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, my wife’s new Hyundai came with it. I still have to keep my hands on the steering wheel but it is actually nice to have. I don’t use it in heavy traffic but if traffic is light on a highway it is actually kind of helpful on long road trips reducing some of the mental fatigue. Chevrolet offers hands-off on many of their vehicles now and I think it’s about a $3,000 upgrade. It sounded like a lot until Tesla said $8,000 for theirs, and Tesla’s is dumb enough to drive through a wall painted to look like the road, like a Roadrunner cartoon.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago

You know what I think is the worst about the Tesla autopilot idiocy? Many of the newer Teslas have updated hardware... with built in radar... that they just don't use. At all.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My 2018 Civic has a great lane centering system. It's bog standard at this point.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My toyota doesn't have lane keeping but it does have lane screaming. If I cross a lane I freaks out and beeps like crazy.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My father's toyota will do that when it senses you're approaching traffic too fast. It will start beeping and flashing indicators on the dashboard. Which I think should be banned, because at a critical moment the vehicle takes your attention off the road because you instinctively look down to see what the car is mad about.

[–] eRac@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

The indicators on my Nissan are amber lights on the pillars, so they are in line of sight instead of making you look down.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I agree. I turned the setting off myself. Whulicb was a pain.

[–] cron@feddit.org 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The reuters article said that only 12% of all Tesla customers bought the FSD option, so clearly the vast majority of customers don't see the value in Tesla FSD.

To be fair, maybe the new monthly option is more attractive to customers, I don't know.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

they can just throw the subscription on top of the $1000 per month for 72 months that the rest of the car costs

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Lane keeping is legally required on all cars now.