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[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This some bOtH sIdEs trash?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 95 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not at all

Cameron...described being the US under Donald Trump as “like watching a car crash over and over” and said his New Zealand citizenship was “imminent”.

“New Zealand had eliminated the virus completely,” he said. “They actually eliminated the virus twice. The third time, when it showed up in a mutated form, it broke through. But fortunately, they already had a 98% vaccination rate.”

“This is why I love New Zealand. People there are, for the most part, sane – as opposed to the United States, where you had a 62% vaccination rate, and that’s going down, going the wrong direction.

“Where would you rather live? A place that actually believes in science and is sane and where people can work together cohesively to a common goal, or a place where everybody’s at each other’s throats, extremely polarised, turning its back on science and basically would be in utter disarray if another pandemic appears.”

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 4 days ago

Yeah it’s not as bad as the headline alone makes it seem for sure! Still, weak ass quote. :p

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

More like- just a rich douche seeing the way the wind is blowing, and is getting out before the guillotines are built.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A quick skim of the article, he also cites how the US doesn’t believe in vaccines and that trump is a train wreck. That said, he did make the quote and is a rich douche so…. Point stands

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As far as rich douches go, James Cameron is probably one of the cleaner ones.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He’s still rich off the exploitation of other laborers though

[–] mech@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Who got exploited in his case?

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] mech@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So if he hadn't made Avatar, they would have been better off?

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, if he hadn't been allowed to take billions of dollars in profits off the movies and intead the rewards had been more equitably distributed, they would have been better off.

I don't get what's so difficult about this concept. One guy doesn't do much work, gets most of the money. Bunch of people do most of the work, get very little money. Way too many people with no money, "this is the best possible system and I will defend it with my dying breath."

[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You're describing a valid criticism of Capitalism, which I share 100%.
I just don't think that translates well to a direct guilt for Cameron.
He couldn't have brought his movies to the screen if he didn't work within this system.
Of course now that he's been successful, he could definitely donate his wealth.

On the other hand, I could also donate all $50k of my life savings without starving, while others are currently starving.
And I'm not going to do it. I carry the same type of guilt, only with lower numbers.

Solidarity is working within the system. If he has the ability to negotiate that compensation for himself he can negotiate it for the other people working on the project instead, he just didn't.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I think Keanu Reeves and the Matrix is a good example of being in the system and sharing within it.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think the opinion of those that have worked with him would be most relevant to that.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's probably the one area where he comes off most as a douche. He's notoriously demanding to work with

He also, earlier on, had a history of less safe practices

But I'd put him as one of the few wealthy people that actually created something others can't. His movies are a creation of his own. Not the result of inevitable scientific advancement

OpenAI/ChatGPT was the result inevitable scientific advancement. The game changer was a publicly published academic paper (by a Google researcher), not anything Sam Altman or OpenAI did. Same can be said about a lot of modern products that created our wealthiest billionaires

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

His movies are a creation of his own. Not the result of inevitable scientific advancement

Are you seriously claiming that Cameron made his movies without scientific advancements? Cameron used the result of hundreds of technical advancements and patents in order to make his movies. He didn't invent movie-making.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He’s profiting from a system that exploits workers, opinions are irrelevant

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Every one of us profits from a system that exploits workers. There are workers who can't even get online, they're suffering more than you, and what little you have is partly due to their underpaid efforts.

Don't let imperfection be the enemy of good. We're all a part of a system that exploits others, so that can't be any useful metric as it paints everyone.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Why would he stay and help you if you're just going to guillotine him afterwards?

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, “both sides” are intentionally being riled up and driven to violent and dangerous rhetoric by one side so yeah. I hate Trump and Repubs but it’s insane the vile shit you see people say. On both sides.

Now where the sides are completely different is that 999/100 on the lefter side aren’t going to go commit violent hateful acts. On the other side it’s a lot worse ratio.

Should note that it’s just social media. In real life it’s just conservatives being insane vs sensible people

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can you show an example of the vile shit the non-conservative group is saying?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You mean aside from deepthroated support for genocide, right?

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait who is supportive of genocide that isn't a conservative??

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] optissima@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Those are conservatives, they're just lying about it. The act of supporting genocide immediately places you in that group.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Generally comments on Facebook. I was seeing vitriolic death shit around the Charlie Kirk stuff but extended. Everyone in the comments telling each other to die and threatening. It was gross. Driven by bots it gets everyone worked up. Since the ICE “crackdown” though it seems to be just racists vs sensible people, and I’m glad for that.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I did see a lot of people who were glad or even gleeful he wasn't spouting his vitriol and died in a way he explicitly approved of, but I'm not on facebook so I didn't see people making threats at each other. That being said, I know that people both to the right and left of Kirk hated him, so it's very possible all the hate being spewed was from the right. Seeing as how since the ICE surge isn't getting the same level of vitriol, I think it's safe to say that most of those weren't people that weren't "left" in any sense of the imagination, or just bots.