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So, it seems like PieFed is becoming a real alternative to lemmy.

What are the differences between these two? From a tech perspective, and also morality/ethics, if you want. Any differences in vision for these services?

Say whatever is on your mind. I want to know.

On which one should we put our weight?

Edit: I will leave this post here, which is a post by one of the devs of Lemmy that enumerates some of the things Lemmy 1.0 has. Lemmy 1.0 seems to be already in alpha stage and is already testable. The feature selection does look fantastic. Here is the post I am referring to: https://lemmy.ml/post/40744781

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

What do you mean “organize and harangue” the fediverse?

Using low populated instances, or poorly moderated instances as springboards by which to troll, spread misinformation and post in bad faith.

Is disagreeing with you that?

No.

Taking an issue with your political picks and their stances and platform? Who put you in charge? I didn’t vote for you.

I didn't say, in this context, that I would be the arbiter. Just that if an instance was used that way by bad agents consistently, and it was noticed, it could find itself at risk of being defederated.

Beyond that, there's little support on larger instances like .world, sh.itjust.works etc of re-federating with lemmygrad, hexbear, maga.place etc.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I see lemmygrad and hexbear, and they are insufferable, but I can avoid posts on their instance.

When I first got on here I didn't know any of that and responded on some hexbear post and they piled on me, I defended myself thinking they were super politically correct until someone noticed and explained to me they were communists from other countries. Probably 100 replies from them.

All just to make cheap political points, west bad. No you can't fix anything in the west stop right there west always bad, eastern dictatorship good apparently. That was my affront too, I said they were trying to turn the US into an eastern style government where everyone has to pretend to believe their leaders. While here in the west we've long been able to disagree with our leaders. They piled on, and I thought they were mad because of political correctness gone awry.

I should add I think they followed me onto other threads and trolled me too for a couple of weeks, I actually caught a couple and called them out on it.

Other attempts to make common cause all ended in failure as well as a whole although I've spoken to a few reasonable people you will always get some that jump down your throat about something. They also seem to need permission to believe in something. Pathetic.

So I see where one would want to ban them, I think other measures could be better, like hiding their posts under a banner, nsfw style perhaps. It could come auto censored and you have to click on it, it could give you the options to set up how to block what. There could be ways to mute them or groups, idk the mechanics.

But if drastic action is taken, it should be under a clear set of rules, and I think those rules in an ideal instance could reach a jury trial of users, where someones argues the best arguments either side and a decision is made. I think that should also be available to other moderation actions like permanently banning users. Half the people on lemmy here were targeted on reddit with dishonest moderation in the first place, and everyone on there has seen moderators abusing their power, had false allegations lobbed at them, been accused of motivations they don't have.

Clear and honest rules would prevent abuses and misunderstandings, and prevent manipulators, many of which are organized for ill purposes, from running malign agendas with armies of mechanized troll divisions and influence agents, some of which are paid for by our own governments and have hooks into social media companies to pretend not to see them and cave to their bad faith moderations asks, whether by mass flagging through those agents, or homeland security that sent lists of users to ban.

They don't ban or violoate users for what they are getting banned for either, they find an unrelated subject, and pretend it's against the rules, often with no plausibility. Because we have no protections, no honest system of appeal, they don't have to show plausible reasons to violate accounts in the US. Jury Trials would fix that and instill trust, something soon to be in shorter supply, everything is going to go to shit(tier places.)

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 6 days ago

I see lemmygrad and hexbear, and they are insufferable, but I can avoid posts on their instance.

But, notably here, not necessarily their users. Hence the blocklist implemented by most instances.

But you're welcome to go on using lemmy.today which does federate with them. What's the problem?