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I would one thousand percent prefer Newsom over Trump and I almost guarantee Newsom wouldn’t send his brownshirts into red states to shoot mothers.
Seriously?
Yeah, seriously. Are you unaware of the fucking stakes right now?
Gavin is basically Hilary 2.0. if he becomes president, expect Trump 2.0.
Username checks out
So Trump 2.0 isn’t Trump? What’s the current president? Trump 1.8?
Trump 2.0 is probably JD Vance. But I don't accept the logic that a Newsom presidency would necessarily lead to Trump 2.0, a.k.a. Vance
Yeah talking with a shitty media personality is basically the same as deploying brownshirts and the actual military to American cities
Brownshirts were civilians not law enforcement. Law enforcement acting such is like the SS, and SA, not the brownshirts.
Sure there's likely not a direct comparison, but the party has rapidly enabled its own selected force to brutalize a large section of the population with impunity.
Ao draw the analogy you want, it's bad though. Couldn't be much worse
The SS or SA is not a bad direct comparison. Brownshirts were the nazi version, the Italians did so first with their blackshirts. Civilian groups, street brawlers, that would target left wing groups, leaders, burn down their businesses, beat them up, shit like that.
The brownshirts would stir up shit to force new elections all the time and the nazis kept getting more and more votes each election, supported by big business because they were anti socialist. The SS and SA were like the official goons although not law enforcement before hitler's chancellorship obviously.
Everyone hated the brownshirts, including those rich that supported the nazis, so after they had control, and consolidated power with the SS and SA able to handle security, they killed all the brown shirt leadership in the night of the long knives, partly out of paranoia but partly to appease the rich that preferred the organized official violence to the dumbass street brawlers.
That said, Ice is like the SS, or SA, I'm trying to remember but the SA was mostly folded into the SS after they consolidated power but for a while they were parallel law enforcement type organizations controlled by hitler. Except Germany was broke, the USA just gave Ice more money than any militaries in the world get other than yours truly and China.
Ben became irrelevant years ago, and had certainly been replaced. Not every dipshit republican media personality is gobbels
I believe his rhetoric was definitely part of the movement that led us here, but he wasn't the main driver
Can you link the video, if you have time?
so vote for who?
According to a bunch of supposed lefties, you don't vote at all, and then bitch on twitter that nobody picks correct rulers, and the west is falling
That is according to the democratic establishment that sells those points to the weak minded to shift the blame from their unpopular candidates running status quo campaigns losing.
Socialists. And if there aren’t any on the ballot, then spend some time to actually organize your community so that next time there are.
If the election comes and there isn’t anyone on the ballot you want to vote for, you have wasted your political power.
Our standards have fallen so low
I do respect how being spit on is how respect is defined. - RTJ
https://youtu.be/bd7fb5oQhVg
What if the mothers were homeless?
"Now we're talking"
Homeless or trans he is happy to arrest or shoot for existing
Don't humanize the people neo-liberals don't care about like that!
FTFY
I mean a lot of us have been voting blue no matter who for our entire adult lives and things keep ratcheting right into Nazi land
I've been voting that way too. I question it often but haven't changed my mind yet.
I might have an issue with "vote blue no matter who" were it not for the fact that the morons around us are voting by the tens of millions FOR Nazi land!
They had the opportunity to vote for the center-right corporate-friendly administration that will probably not get much progressive stuff done because they have the same billionaire donors.
But no, they voted for the idiotic criminal self-labeled dictator THREE TIMES! They cared more about who could get hurt (LGBT, minority, female, "other") than whether we could actually improve society.
The DNC shares a ton of blame too. I don't mean to leave them out of it. I hope that some young progressive voices can drag the party to the left. It would be great to not be forced into a two party system in the first place of course, but I worry that the only way such a change will happen any time soon is that a lot of people die and then the survivors write new rules.
The democrats just voted to give ICE more money. They always do this and then we ratchet right into Nazi land… I’m getting pretty old and this always happens. I’ve watched it my entire life the democrats don’t ever do anything to stop the evil. They enable it every time
Exactly. Americans need to do something else because there isn’t any voting their way out of this. Keep voting democrat, but know that it wont actually fix anything. It’s not meant to.
The point isn't to keep voting for democrats because they will save us.
The point, given we are forced into a two party system, is more about trying to take over the party most of the time while also voting against the outright nazis in general elections.
Understand that you will not be able to take over that party by voting alone. At least acknowledge that. Because the way you talk about it makes me think that the US is absolutely a lost cause when this is how their “leftists” speak.
Newsome is going to enable the tech billionaires and Israel so basically we will keep marching in lockstep with project 2025 with funny tweets. He has been fighting the one time 5% billionaire tax proposal in California and he vetoes everything that upsets shareholder profit in California.
You are right, we need new politicians and a new political system, not Democrats in power. Go get em tiger!
Those are from a team of social media savvy folks. He's demonstrated that he doesn't always understand his own tweets.
They aren’t even all that funny to be honest.
In context of him mocking trump, they absolutely are.
If they are homeless or trans, Newsome is happy to arrest or shoot them.
He broke the marriage equality impasse. Without him I might not be married.
He protects LG rights and maybe BQ, but he has consistently vetoed T rights. I'm straight AF so this doesn't affect me directly, but it affects my friends, so I care that he doesn't.
To be clear, I voted for Newsome, because the Democratic party didn't give me a choice. I'd primary him if I could.
Sure, but why is he the alternative we should bring up?
Because he's the only one with any political power.
Yet without popular reform, which he is constitutionally opposed to, they can't win. Your lesser of two assholes arguments has no answer to the fact that these status quo democrats cannot reliably win. Now with republicans cheating in so many ways, that's especially true.
He had his chance in 2024 and he declined to stand up and take the election.