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cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/34255100

Thought I'd create a distinct thread from the previous one asking about daily use, because I really do want to hear more on people's pain points. Great to know people are generally sounding pretty positive in those posts who recently switched, but want to know your difficulties as well! This way old and new users can share their thoughts, hopefully to inspire a respectful discussion.

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[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Devs not working together to make Wayland universally supported and bug free ASAP or fixing X11 ASAP. With Microslop Windoze being as horrible as it is we cannot permit ourselves to fight these silly internal battles; as long as someone is not bullying, raping, killing, or, you know, peddling crypto and cheering ICE, then give each other some slack.

As for daily usage I have no gripes. Linux works excellently. If I still gamed as much as I did back in the day then these shitty kernel anti-cheats would bother me,* now I simply don't touch them.


*Not a Linux problem but an anti-cheat engineering skill issue. Looking at you EA; RIP Battlefield 1.

[–] mech@feddit.org 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's the thing with Linux: Devs work on whatever the fuck they want, because they don't work for a single corporation with an over-arching goal.
And a lot of them have very strong opinions about what's better, which motivates them to work on it in their free time in the first place.
But all the big corporate support and big donor money goes towards Wayland now.
X11 is basically frozen in the state it's in for the few people who still rely on it, and losing dev wo*manpower quickly.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

or fixing X11 ASAP

There was this one guy doing major work on X11, but while he did some good work he also submitted breaking changes, was then barred from submitting patches and in turn created an angry fork (XLibre) breaking even more important things (e.g. the whole Nvidia driver).

That's why we can't have nice things. He probably turned a lot of people away who could've helped the project (and it also didn't help that he was an anti-vaxer that even pissed Linus Torvalds off with his nonsense).

Since most of the X11 devs are Wayland devs now it's understandable they don't want to ever go back to it anymore. They know the limitations and the horrible, ancient feature-creep of it. This talk from 2013 explains their motivations for abandoning it pretty well.