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DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs. They have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years, currently 45. The last time they had 58 for less than two months they caucused with 2 independents to pass Medicaid. They would have launched a Public Option identical to Germany's healthcare if not for one of those independents opposing it.
DNC is liberal, DNC is on our side, Vote DNC. Or, if an independent polls higher, then vote for them because at least they're not a Republican and removing every single Republican should be our goal.
Many democrats are on our side. Historically, traditionally the DNC AKA leadership absolutely isn't. There have been some changes in recent history. And that's good. But till there's enough history to plot out a new pattern of behavior. We'd be fools to treat them as if they changed.
The biggest problem with the Democratic party for decades has been that they're serving two masters. Lip-service to the voters to try and get their neoliberal candidates in office. But legislating largely for the major donors that took over funding the party once Reagan broke the unions. The DNC talks the talk. But atm are unable to walk the walk. I hope that changes soon. With each death and retirement, things look a little better for them.
Yeah, like three of them.
And the rest are fighting harder to stop Democrats who actually are on our side than they are against fascists: people like Mamdani and Platner.
Yep, but thankfully it looks like Mamdani and Platner might be changing the equation. Fingers crossed.
Platner could easily be Fetterman v2.
Absolutely possible, though, less likely. He at least seems to show some introspection and ability to learn. But you're not wrong to be wary of him considering his past stances.
They're not enough, not on their own. It's a signal sure, but it's a signal that DNC has to fight harder to preserve their power and status-quo, so they will fight harder to both squash up-and-coming leftist leaders as well as reform their image to pretend to be working towards social change.
Actual progressives are not compatible with the current Dem party, the old-guard has the political capital of old money and plenty of donors who work across the aisle, the dems just have the "soft populist" presentation where the GOP has the "hard power" presentation, but they both serve the same masters.
If we want new Mamdani's and the like to rise to power we have to flush this entire Democrat party in congress and senate. I don't trust any of them, I don't care if good people are caught in the wash, we will do better in this case with the devil we don't know.
No one said they were. It's a start. Not the end game.
Well I want people on my side who actually DO something.
You can be on my side all you want, but unless you're just marching with us, I want you to have some fucking balls and political capital if you're going to fight for me on a policy level.
Everyone does. AOC and Mamdani literally are marching with us. It's largely leadership that keeps anything from getting done or changing. Blame them.
we are? leadership is the dnc.
I agree. We largely agree. So I'm not sure what the disagreement is.
THEY ARE THE LEADERSHIP
Christ it's like the right still talking about the "Deep state" when they are deeper in the state than an Alabama hog farmer and his prize sow. Nah fam I am done playing the shell-game of accountability.
Dem "leadership" does nothing but field candidates they know will lose, and write stern letters to the people funding death squads. They are ineffectual because they don't want to win. I don't even care if I'm painting the whole party with too broad a brush, because whoever is in there still on our side don't seem to have the power or will to go against their party in any meaningful capacity.
Flush the toilet, sink the turds, fill the bowl with new turds and lets see if they sink or float.
AOC and Mamdani are leadership? Did anyone tell them or the DNC that?
The closest we're getting to a shell game here is painting with a broad brush and lumping them all into one shell. You're never going to get the old guard out if you continue to make enemies of the ones actually working to do it.
Who's talking about Mamdani, Mamdani is the model of what we want, he is a representation of broad-scale, grassroots campaigning and electoral reform. But he's not a leader of our federal system, he's a mayor. But we need a lot more of what we did in New York across the whole country so that when we do get new leaders, they are supported on a state level.
For the rest of the incumbents in power, they ARE leaders of our country, and I hold them to a higher standard. I don't support their genocide enabling, stern-letter-writing, lack of capitalization on their platform and complete fealty to the wealthy. They ARE my fucking enemy. FLUSH THEM ALL.
I was. Literally what I was talking about in the post you replied to before this. Did you reply to the wrong person?
Maybe I don't understand what you're promoting, but I have to push back on any support for our current Democratic leadership, they are worse than Republicans, they are worse in every way because they are supposed to be our opposition and are secretly conspiring. At least the right sometimes believe what they're promoting because they're stupid.
We can fix stupid, we can't fix evil.
Oh absolutely. If I've been unclear about anything. Absolutely fuck the DNC and it's leadership.
Oh I will, but not for any incumbents. This current batch is most definitely NOT on our side, but the DNC is just a container, it's filled with a liquid that has gone bad.
We pour out the contents of the container and replace it with something that hasn't gone bad yet.
And their campaign promises have so much value, clearly.
And I feel more and more that they only say these are their platforms because they have absolutely no chance of pulling any of it off so it's safe to promise but they won't be required to do the negotiating and political work to make it happen, especially if the entire party isn't aligned behind the goal. It's very easy to make promises for things but so far none of that has panned out on a federal level.
I corrected this slightly, but you're right. They know that none of it is actually going to get done, and they have the excuses already lined up: not enough votes, obstruction, filibuster, parliamentarian, etc. etc. etc.
It's the same reason some billionaires insist that they support higher taxation on themselves, because they know it is never going to happen.
Maybe if we had more than 48 we could find out. Let's call their bluff.
I agree.
And also, itd be great if senators like Bernie, Warren and others, actually called out their "peers" who are obviously blocking progress.
I think my two Senators: Kaine, and Warner are playing a shell game where they go as corporate as they can and still give the appearance of resistance.
And yet I ha e to vote for them until there is a viable alternative. Its just so frustrating the lack of transparency.
This coming November there will likely be challengers to almost every Dem seat, people smell how fed up the populace is with current DNC leadership and will likely throw their hats in the ring.
DNC is a container. We pour out the contents of the container and fill it with something new.
Nonsense.
Donald has the same amount of power that Clinton, Obama, and Biden had.
The problem isn't a lack of power. It's their predilection to enrich themselves at the expense of their constituents. The only difference is Donald isn't offering shitty excuses like Dems do.
Biden had the least amount of power because as I mentioned the DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years.
To be clear, Trump's power comes solely from inaction in the Senate.
But, on that note, Biden accomplished a lot of great things including taxing the rich.
Every time the Dems have had a majority in my lifetime, they have failed to even discuss progressive legislation, let alone try to enact it.
The Dems had control for a few months in 2011, and that was when they passed the ACA. That was the only point in my lifetime they controlled the government.
The last time before that was 1961-1969. Which included such legislation as the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act, though in sure you can find plenty more that was passed.
Not to mention that the Dems have absolutely been discussing progressive legislation. It's failed to pass, passed and then been vetoed, or even at times been passed and then struck down by conservative courts.
In 2003 they banned campaign funding from PACs instead allowing only a maximum from individuals, but in 2007-2010 the SCOTUS shut it down then declared it unconstitutional.
The Inflation Reduction Act also contained a ton of good stuff not even related to Inflation.
The DNC has had multiple opportunities to tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs during my lifetime and they have not done so once. I don’t believe them anymore when they say it’s their platform.
Being anti-Republican isn’t enough anymore. This shit will keep happening for as long as we allow private ownership of the means of production.
The quiet part is there wasn’t a plan to tax the rich for another decade or two when they thought shit would actually hit the fan. Shit hit the fan much sooner than they hoped, as this was an issue they were going to leave the next generation to handle. It’s more an issue of the baby boomers having had control of the DNC for decades.
Business was booming during the Obama years; why did it matter to the rich people in Congress if the rest of us had to hustle more? That’s the real reason they didn’t tax the rich when they could have, well that and they were getting tons of funding from the big businesses.
The pro-corporate Dem plans went up in flames quite a lot when Hillary was not elected. Now that shit got worse much sooner than they hoped, they’re in a rock and a hard place because they still don’t want to tax their rich buddies but the voters are actually pushing to vote them out if they keep doing nothing.
No, I'm pretty sure Democrats are for more funding for ICE. Don't project your ideals into these ghouls.
DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years and now the ICE has more funding than most militaries. If you want change, vote out the Republicans, which almost always means vote DNC.
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I've been a regular for quite awhile but I did recently move to piefed.
Feel free to make some kind of argument when you're ready.