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I've seen alot of calls for violence in America. Whether it be directed at the president or Federal officers, many people are advocating for an escalation in response to the current situation.

And believe me, I do understand. what I see happening in America is horrifying. But all I am imploring is to really think about what your asking for. Because you can't put the genie in the bottle once you've left it out.

If you're really gung-ho about it, go and ask a Veteran of Iraq or Afghanistan about it and see what they think. If anyone will know about it they will.

I am going to link a YouTube Playlist. Its the Associated Press Archives of the Bosnian-Serbian war. Because THAT is what will happen if wide scale violence breaks out. Except what will happen in America will be a hundred times worse.

The Bosnian war was pretty much broken up along ethnic lines. "Well it's going to be Conservative VS. Liberal" you say. Except it won't be. It will be anyone having a grudge against someone going after them.

ALOT of personal animosity will be taken out in the first few weeks I feel.

And I think the Seige of Sarajavo will be writ large in American cities across the country. Imagine having to dodge sniper fire on your way to get to your job at Wendy's.

Because that's the other thing no one is thinking about. You are still going to have to make a living while this is all going to be happening. And the cost of everything will skyrocket. Shipping will probably have to be escorted from place to place because people will be stealing or even blockading locations because they're "damn dirty libs" or "Fascist Conservatives" Fresh produce will become a thing of the past.

Canada and Mexico will close their borders due to all the refugee's trying to cross. so if you thinking of doing it, do it the moment everything pops off because otherwise you won't get in.

Basically Civil war is going to the worst thing to happen in America in a long time. and the only good that comes out of it will be Americans will finally have first hand experience of real war torn violence. And maybe that will hopefully last for another two hundred years or so.

If America even survives the outcome that is.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Societal collapse, Balkanization.

Victory through disinformation and chaos.

What Putin wants to happen because if it does, he and Xi will have the biggest power vacuum they'll be occupying in history, either Pax Sinica or Pax Russica. There won't be a US to dictate how things do in the world, but instead is but replacing one hegemonic power with another, but more dystopian.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Putin might want it because he's an idiot, but China would prefer the economic stability.

Realistically only China might come out of this winning.

Keyword "might" because they really screwed themselves over via one child policy.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Realistically only China might come out of this winning.

Yes, of course. Putin is betting so high on winning his own personal war with the West, seeking to even exceed Brezhnev in that he won't have to attack the US directly, but even then Russia remains so stagnant in some places compared to the unrelentingly fast growth of China even with its own domestic problems. Russia would then be supplying raw materials, in exchange for Chinese goods. Together they would be free and out to create their own new world order with the United States permanently removed as a hegemonic counteracting power.

Now that they're trying to end reproduction restrictions (no thanks to those Malthusian fanatics in the 70s) I won't be surprised if the Chinese would either start importing labor but keep them under tight watch, or invest heavily in friendly vassal states in Africa and South America.

I am saying all this because if all these happen, we may soon be forced to learn Mandarin.