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[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 36 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Can I buy one and ship it to the US? Only a small fraction of us actually like Trump. The rest of the numbers are blown up by the media to seem bigger than they are, then another chunk didn't even vote at all.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Can I buy one and ship it to the US?

https://greenlandsupport.com/

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 63 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Those who didn't vote in the 2024 election are equally culpable to the Trumpoids in my eyes. It was very clear what Trump stood for, yet they didn't bother to go out and vote against fascism.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 65 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

My favorites are the ones who claimed they couldn't vote for a genocide.

Now they have three genocides and two invasions.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 2 hours ago

i feel like the ones that dint vote, and voted for rfk or stein are republicans that dont are "embarrsed' the other group is the totally "this has no effect on me now"

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I guess they didn't pay heed to what John Morley stated more than 100 years ago:
"Politics is a field where the choice lies constantly between two blunders."

It's not make-a-wish. Most of the time, you have to vote for the lesser evil.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 15 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Especially when Harris, as VP, supported investigating Israel so they could shut down the rule forcing them to supply arms to Israel.

It's my opinion that she only reversed course to get campaign donations. Looking at her voting history she was the closest to Sanders out of everyone.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Seems to me very likely that Harris would have been an above average president.
But sadly Americans chose the fascist psycho over Harris, because they didn't think Harris was left wing enough, or that she didn't support the Palestinians enough.

The logic being: I'd rather be killed by a fascist psycho than not be helped as much as I want by a way more moderate person, that isn't actively supporting killing me.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

the real reason is "sexism, and racism" even those that dont initially support voting republicans they have those biases in them, but arnt as flagrant about it, because of where they live is unacceptable. as a poc you can tell when people are changed thier body language over a POC vs a white person when interacting with them.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

I bet it's true but it's so stupid.
I'd rather lose my healthcare than vote for a woman. 🤣

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The logic being: I'd rather be killed by a fascist psycho than not be helped as much as I want by a way more moderate person, that isn't actively supporting killing me

That's too much logical thought.

Much closer to "woman not like me bad, man like me good" than anything else.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

I admit I sometimes forget the sexist racist aspect, and I think you are right in that was a significant factor too. But it doesn't make it less stupid I suppose as you hint at, it actually just makes it even more stupid.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago

Non-white and woman surely counted as well in some circles.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don't give them logic.

Saw a post denouncing Mamdani and AOC for not being pro-Palestinian enough.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They'd probably denounce Hamas for not being pro-Palestinian enough.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 10 hours ago

That's not that hard of a position.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 11 hours ago

What's your favorite Obama war?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Only a small fraction of us actually like Trump.

Bullshit, he got half the votes, and those that didn't vote didn't dislike him enough to prevent his election.
So Americans like Trump plenty, until he does something that hurts them personally.
If you really believe your own comment, you are delusional.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

alot of its based on sexism, they dint like trump enough but dislike women in charge evenmore.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago

I bet that's true, and that just so incredibly stupid. We have a woman prime minister here in Denmark, Mette Frederiksen, and although I don't agree much with her politically, there is no doubt that she is very competent.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

They always play that card. Somehow, in their minds, they're the strongest democracy out there, but over the multiple decades of their elected government representatives doing atrocious stuff their answer is always "oh no you see they don't represent the real americans"

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Read up on a thing called 'The Electoral College.'

The smaller, conservative states have more power than the larger states.

Left leaning California has 2 Senators, the same as tiny Rightwing Alabama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

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[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not a conspiracy tinfoil hat guy, but there's been enough projection and "holy shit are they actually admitting it?!?!?" ramblings from Trump, Musk and Rogan over this past year that it's not just myself, but have brought many others to call into question the authenticity of the results.

TLDR: IT WAS RIGGED

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I don't believe you, because there is not a shred of evidence of that.
Occam's Razor tells us it is much more plausible that Americans are just stupid, and didn't learn the lesson from 2 periods of Bush Jr. and the first period of Trump.
The American society is sociopathic and hold individual freedom as a religion. And they see Trump being a malignant narcissist as a perfect example of individual freedom, and they don't recognize the sociopathy because they see it as a virtue.

This is to me the way more plausible explanation, that we have seen play out in many presidential elections in USA, Where already Reagan's uncompromising war mongering campaign won over the much more moral and humane Carter that wanted environmental sustainability. Religious fanatics are fundamentalists, and fundamentalists vote to the right, and psychopaths are fascists and vote to the right. Trump election victory is 100% based in the insanity of the American society.

I am not saying all Americans are insane, there are many good Americans, but just as a person that has terminal cancer has cancer cells in the body that makes the body sick, doesn't mean that all cells are cancer cells. And in the same way American society is sick, because there are so many "sick" people that behave in ways that are harmful, that the society as a whole is sick.

Seen from a country that is one of the best democracies in the world, there is absolutely no doubt about it. It is very obvious that American society as a whole is very very sick.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

American here, and one who grew up in what is now trump country. Well, I guess I still live in a republican area now, but I started out rural.

Your conclusion about how the society as a whole is sick is 100% spot on.

I don't do much international travel, but I did get to spend a little bit of time in europe in the past couple years. Most of it in scandinavia of all places!

The difference is crazy, even not counting all this recent crazy shit. On the surface things look similar. But being immersed in it let all the little details sink in simultaneously.

There's an air of dignity and respect that I am just not used to in american society. Even just the instances of "we couldn't have that, somebody would immediately ruin it" were constant.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

Thanks I don't think most Americans realize how bad it is, and how deep it goes.

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Okay buddy, yowza that was a whole fuck ton of a response. Good on ya. I'm not in any way defending the dumbing down and weakening of critical thinking here. No shit, obviously we're getting dumber in the United States. It's been embarrassing since my childhood. I'm not going to bat for us.

Anyway, there have been a few instances where there have been slip-ups with Trump saying "Elon is so good with the voting machines in Pennsylvania", or with Rogan admitting how in awe he was of Elon looking at his phone saying Trump had won just as opening ballots had started.

Also Trump barely winning in swing states (ridiculous ) where it was a bullet ballot only supporting him, but being generally consistent along previous years trends that supported Democrats.. like I agree, yes we're stupid, whip me more Euro Daddy, but the fact that the Dems didn't immediately demand a recount is so cucked

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

slip-ups with Trump saying “Elon is so good with the voting machines in Pennsylvania”

OK I hadn't sen that, that's an indication.

[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I'm going to go against both grains here:

  1. There are plenty of older Americans who are "Republican" and don't care who the candidate is, that's the party that they feel best aligns with their traditional beliefs and values. They don't or won't watch the media because they know most of it is bullshit (true for both sides). So, there are plenty that stay ignorant/naive in a sense.

On the flip side of that coin, I guess I shouldn't have immediately jumped into this being political, and should really strive to unite both sides bc we all know money buys politics! Aka rich vs everyone else, so it's a vertical battle, not horizonal!

I don't care which "side" is which, we need a candidate who's not bought and paid for!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

don’t care which “side” is which,

So it's OK to lose healthcare and you don't care that the minimum wage is unlivable?
You don't care mass shootings are a multiple times a week occurrence!
As long as the president isn't bought?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago
  1. still definitely votes republican more often than not , dont kid yourself. most of those that vote r dont research thier candidates at all.

2)non-voters are mostly people on the other side.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

A large fraction of us like Trump, but not the majority. Still far, far more than is excusable.

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 12 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

Sorry, but that argument doesn't hold water anymore. We gave you guys the benefit of the doubt for his first term, but this time you knew exactly what you were getting, and you allowed him back anyway. 32% of the eligibile population voting for him is not just some small minority.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Last time he didn't win the popular vote, so there was some consolation to be taken. This time we really don't have an excuse.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

the signs/evidence of rigging was also more obvious this time around too. the DNC shills know, they just dont want thier money train to end if they supported an investigation or wanted harris to win. the old guard DNC benefits much more when GOP wins, because they get those same donor dollars that the gop does. and only allowed to ' fix things" once in awhile.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

you know....elections can be rigged, right?

I wonder how the Germans that fought against fascism felt when people spit on them and called the Nazis?

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

2/3 of the country not opposing his policies seems pretty clear cut to me

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

My over-generalized understanding is that it's more like 1/3rd, but because of exploited political geography their votes were "more special" than the rest of ours, so suddenly we arrived at:

"The whole country wanted this!"

(Historians' note: No they didn't.)

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

When I last looked at the numbers months ago, the actual number of votes for Republicans was 1/3 of the eligible voting population