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I don't mean secession - I mean like a micronation like Molossia or Austenasia, for example
I mean both of these micronations do claim to have seceded from the nations that surround them. And unless you're thinking of starting a micronation in one of the few remaining terrae nullius, i.e. land so shit that no one wants it, secession is a necessary part of building a new nation.
IMO nationalism is a way for weirdos to roleplay as important people and isn't really a serious solution for anything. Micronations are just a pitiful facsimile of that. Like even people who like states see micronations as not worth recognizing.
Any state would have to secede first.