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[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd say it's probably a lot more in line with the ones who didn't vote at all. I know everyone likes to say "conservative dumb," but we're all aware there are plenty of educated conservatives, probably just as many dumb liberals. The true dumb are the ones who sit out an election. That's "I don't read" dumb.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

In a typical modern democracy, turnout for general elections is usually around the 80% mark. I don't think the difference can be explained just by Americans being "dumber."

[–] hector@lemmy.today -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I reject that. Voting changes nothing with both parties owned by the oligarchy, with one now reaching for absolute power or no, the other party was never going to stop them.

We went to great trouble to stop them and it was squandered, then the next election thrown.

No, tis those supporting the doomed to fail strategy at fault, not those not participating, because it was always going to end here without a New Deal on offer, and your precious opposition party sees it's reason for being as preventing reform, not beating r's, or undoing their past harms, let alone restoring the republic to it's glory half a century back before the business roundtable infected both parties and every branch of government.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah sorry this argument doesn't matter now that the current president is sending armed goons to muder citizens. We have God damn literal brownshirts in our streets

This would not have been our current reality, but the BoTH SidEs ArE ThE SAmE crowd is incapable of acknowledging their responsibility in making this happen

[–] hector@lemmy.today -1 points 21 hours ago

You are arguing terms, after the formula is multiplied by zero. Get some real opposition leadership, or else get used to the fascist dictatorship. You knew or should have known people like Biden would fail, let alone kamala, anointed without contest 4 plus months to go running as status quo.

Instead of admitting you trusted the wrong people you listen to those wrong people in passing the buck, and blaming everyone else.

People made clear they wouldn't vote for these democrats just because the other party is worse, biden barely pulled off 2020 and did nothing with it, vote for what? 2020 changed nothing, just slowed down parts of the plutocratic rot and fascist cancer. Take some responsibility and admit your influencers are playing you, so you can help get a winning strategy, a new deal in popular reform. Or else continue to lose, and blame everyone else despite knowing better.

But ignorance is no excuse, and following the lead of establishment democrats that see their reason for being as preventing reform, and extracting borrowed money from the government, rather than defeating the republicans and instituting real reform to improve the situations is at this point a dereliction of duty as a citizen that votes, and frankly speaks to a weak mind.