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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police lie under oath, a lot

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

~~Lady, why the fuck is your door even open if you haven't seen a warrant yet?~~ I've been informed she didn't open it, but the rest of this comment stands

I'm going to repeat this for anyone who needs to hear it: The. Door. Does. Not. Open. Without. A. Warrant. If they want to break down the door without one, wonderful, you can sue them later and probably (if the courts aren't completely useless by that point) win enough money to buy an entire new house let alone a new door; but that does not work if your dumb ass opens the door for them and allows them to plant their jackboot in the doorway.

[–] DrWorm@lemmy.world 43 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

They knocked the door open, the lady didn't open it.

You can see the wood splinter and fragments on the ground they forced the door open illegally. You can see a video of this from the outside they broke the door open.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh, I didn't notice that -- well then she's in for a fantastic windfall, again assuming the court isn't completely captured by fascism.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when a cop destroyed a innocent bystander’s home to find a fugitive. Owner sued the city, and judge sided with her. But the 5th circuit said nah fuck that. Also SCOTUS declined to review the case. https://usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/11/25/supreme-court-swat-teams-property-damage/76129567007/

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 1 hour ago

judge sided with her

Correction: a jury sided with her. We should always remember that 99% of the time the appellants have had to convince multiple people that they were due remuneration, not just one.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] archonet@lemy.lol 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I mean, there are still civil servants that aren't complicit in or enthusiastically going along with this bullshit. Hard to say how long it is before suing would be a completely pointless endeavor, but I don't think we're at that point yet.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Hopefully there's a run on 3 inch screws as everyone reinforces how their door hinges are attached. Although if the really want to get in they will find a way.