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Conceptually modern small/mid-size SUVs and minivans are the same.
A grand caravan is 15 inches longer than the Pilot, 1 inch wider and 7 inches taller.
doors, internal layout, and shape of the cabin are far more functional on the minivan
Yup. Wayyyy more space as a general rule. You can fit 7 people in minivans.
If you know, you know.
Those a rookie numbers. We got seven people in a subaru once.
Granted, one of us was in the trunk, and the other was laying on everybody's lap in the back seat, but we did it.
Haha, I believe it.
I'm assuming this was not one of those Subaru station wagons. If you ignore seatbelt laws, you could probably get that many in the back w/ the seat down, LOL.
I mean, we were already ignoring seatbelt laws, lol. If the guy's trunk didn't have a bunch of shit in it, we probably could have doubled the number of teenagers on a pilgrimage to McDonalds.
oh, I do know.
a friend had a minivan for a while, we used to pile five guys and gear for whatever trip into that thing all the time after he took out some of the kid stuff. just some of it, didn't even need it fully cleaned out.
I'd considered buying one for myself, but I am partial to wagons and the price was never right for me for my application.
I still struggle to fit all the shit I want to into my car sometimes, though. difficult when the back seat is taken up by two dogs. a minivan would fit it no problem, meanwhile my car is packed to the ceiling and I've got the passenger seat full too. does the job well enough outside of those few situations, though. people ask me why I don't get an SUV (crossover) instead - wouldn't help, there isn't that much more space, just a bit of height and you can typically only stack stuff so high. and if you get into the actual SUVs, well jfc those things are huge I don't want or need that, also --> back to van
there are applications where a suburban or escalade makes sense, but it's not often
Yeah, I remember a co-worker of mine had to shop around forever and finally have a minivan shipped from out of state, because he and his wife researched and it came down to one model (Honda, I think?). Anyway, virtually everyone else wanted it, too, since it probably was top-rated by Consumer Reports or whatever, and local dealers were charging 5-10K in markup, or more.
So they are not necessarily cheap, especially for the ones others want, and they are not something that are going to get you laid, LOL. I definitely blame the boomers for starting that whole thing, though. For some reason it became a thing where lots of parents want to give the impression they....are not parents. I guess these people thought even though they had kids, they needed a cool car to pull tail? Or be the hawt MILF? What are these people even doing? They are parents! What is this denial bullshit?
For some reason, the very same people that will point and giggle at some older guy wearing a baseball cap and driving a Corvette because he's bald and who does he even think he is - will turn their nose up at driving a minivan even if they have several kids and spend their time in their vehicle carting kids around and getting groceries. No, they need something like an SUV, because....reasons. The same reasons they accuse the guy driving the Corvette of!
I was just searching around on cargo space vs. full-size SUVs, and at least in some cases, the minivan (Honda Odyssey) has more than at least some of the full-size SUV models. They definitely have more leg-room and head-room than full-size SUVs I've been in, when it comes to the second-row seats, anyway. I figure one of those behemoth Escalades might have something comparable, but I've not been in the back of one of those...