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A Trump official previously complained about a caption beside his National Portrait Gallery photo mentioning his impeachments and the U.S. Capitol insurrection.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 138 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Smithsonian used to be a very prestigious brand of science.

Too bad that’s now been ruined.

I’d really hoped they’d stand up to the fascism, but apparently no. That was too much to ask.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Nearly a century later, people still bring up how Hugo Boss designed the SS uniform, Fanta was made by coke to sell to the Nazis and Volkswagen was founded by Nazis and used slave labour to build military jeeps and prison transports.

Now, I'm not saying this is directly equivalent to those instances, but a lot of these American organisations think people are going to forget their capitulations quickly.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

People don't forget, but also those are three successful brands that don't seem to be suffering from their history.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Hugo Boss didn't design shit, as he wasn't a designer and his company wasn't in fashion design until after his death.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You’re right. Back in the day, brands could endure. Nowadays, we can see through them, and people aren’t brand-loyal like we used to be.

If corporations want to be people, we can treat them as people. And when they show us their cowardice in the face of fascism, we can ostracise them just like we do that intolerable uncle.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are extremely brand loyal nowadays and I'd even argue it's the worst it's been in recent history. Just look how addicted people are to the MAGA cult identity and Elon Musk's products and branding.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your comment prompted me to look this up and, yeah, people aren’t really brand loyal anymore.

Perhaps it’s an age thing? When I was younger, nearly everything we used was tied tightly to a brand, and I can’t tell you how many jingles I’ll never forget. Now there are a few very strong brands, but otherwise people shop around more and are swayed more by reviews and influencers than because ‘it’s the best part of waking up’.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This is a Forbes contributor article. You've functionally linked to a blog post.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unrelated side note.....why is it always the uncle thats used as the personification of the asshole in the family???

I'm an uncle. I don't get drunk and ruin thanksgiving. I don't molest my niece. I don't berate people into listening to alex jones podcasts.

But it's always the uncle used in those descriptions. Maybe we should start admitting that sisters, and brothers, and moms, and dads, and even cats can be the asshole of the family! Not saying uncles can't be....just why is it ALWAYS uncles???

[–] YerLam@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Uncles: Close enough to be an obligation invite, distant enough that they aren't around and doing that stuff all the time. Perfect scapegoat.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Have you considered you might be able to get away with a bit of dastardliness given the stereotype?

Knick an extra slice of pie at Thanksgiving; get your niece an exciting gift that outshines all the rest; start your own podcast about the different bowling alley oiling techniques and berate your family to be on an episode!

Embrace your inner uncle - in moderation.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mainly because people hear something that tickles them and they mindlessly repeat it.

Boss didn't design any Nazi uniform. His company was one of thousands to at some point hold a contract to manufacture clothing for the military. The Boss contract wasn’t even that large, a few tens of thousands of units. The SS uniforms were designed in-house , most notably by SS-Oberführer Karl Diebitsch and Walter Heck. Neither of them has the celebrity value however.

Meanwhile, people quickly forgot that the dispatch system for railway transportation in the Holocaust was supplied by IBM.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 19 hours ago

Eh, IBM did just fine

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Read up on Ford and Hitler... People forgot about that one quick enough! BUILT FORD TOUGH!

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes I like to think these types of things are being implemented by people that expect to revert them if there's ever a next administration, with the underlying intent being that this act of capitulation will prevent the current administration from taking aim at their entire organization.

If I were asked to make a decision between making this change or having the Smithsonian's very existence threatened, I would grit my teeth, make the change, and put the correct plaque in storage ready for the next inauguration day.

I'm not saying this is the case here, or that it's ever happened, only that this thin thread of optimism helps retain my sanity.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes I like to think these types of things are being implemented by people that expect to revert them if there’s ever a next administration,

Well the thing about that is that is not how history is supposed to fucking work. If history seriously is just whatever politician thinks it was then the whole enterprise is worthless.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The victor's have always written history, or at least influenced the details of how it was remembered. There are museums in the south today that don't paint a clear picture as to which side won the American Civil War.

If the decision were yours to make, would you hold to your principles and have the Smithsonian disregard the executive order from last year and risk being disbanded entirely? Or would you alter a plaque to omit some details in order to save the rest of what the museum has?

As a followup question, if you choose your principles, do you feel regret if the jackboots march in with orders to destroy the collections? I know I would. Which is why I would bend in the first place - to avoid being broken.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's alright, I understand it's usually easier to make a witty remark instead of giving a complicated issue consideration. How I wish things were cut and dry.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

How much of history do you alter before your museum is a farce? How much truth can you change to lies for the sake of funding before your museum is just a propaganda program for an authoritarian regime?