MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Israel is a terrorist state that calls as terrorists those who challenge its ambitions of occupation, apartheid, and genocide.
Being vilified by Israel is not one and the same as being fundamentally wicked.
Correct. And Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Hamas is labeled terrorist because it was assigned the label by Israel.
Hamas is terrorist only as much as one terrorist entity is credible to decide exactly which groups or factions are terrorist.
More generally, terrorist simply is a label states assign to their non-state enemies.
By the same standards, the Continental Army would be terrorist, as would be essentially every belligerent that has engaged in anti-colonial struggle.
Regardless, it should be concrete facts, not abstract labels, that are used to support arguments and conclusions.
False. Hamas is labeled terrorist for performing acts of terrorism.
Once again, your argument is circular and inane.
You are begging the question, of the particular acts and the reasons for their being characterized as terrorist.
The fact is that Israel labels Hamas as terrorist, because doing so functions in service of its state interests. However, Israel has no credibility, and all of its claims should be strongly scrutinized.
Once again, you demonstrate zero knowledge of what those words mean.
True.
Also true.
Hamas is also a terrorist organization.
Bad Hasbara.
You are repeated debunked Zionist propaganda.
Debunked? Are you saying there was no rape or murder of civilians during the 7th of October massacres? Note the plural there.
Want me to ban em?
Nah, as long as they aren't being hostile I don't mind them showing off how irrational they are
Edit: lol, see, they had to make sjw alts to appear like there are more of them. Totally unhinged people.
Imagine both of this can be true!!1