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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're on a computer. You probably game too. You're burning resources where ever you go. We need tools to fight fascists. I say use the tools we have. Without it, they have an advantage being able to create content and analysis. Also forests are fine. Don't be dramatic. I'm not convinced that bots didn't drive a lot of AI hate so that the left would hobble itself

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ai uses more resources than that and the tech bros are very responsible for the current fascism and I’m not going to use ai slop tools that are quickly using up the rest of our drinking water.

The Forrest’s are not fine. They burn down every fucking year.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You do know you can run it offline on your own PC hardware, right?

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay? I really don’t give a shit to use the fascist tech bro slop machines. I don’t want it to run offline on my computer. I don’t want it to run at all. I think we should break its legs so it can’t even walk anymore.

Fuuuck ai.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It matters when your argument was that it uses water and more resources than playing games, when the reality is it does neither of them when used on your personal device.

You're complaining about datacentres not LLMs.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Why. Like this is what I'm talking about. Some heritage foundation think tank spent a year telling you they're taking yer jobs and drawing pictures of your women naked and stealing your water and now you're just a zealot refusing to use something that clearly would be beneficial.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And yet none of the reasons you've listed are about LLMs.

At least the 'it's stealing art' people actually have an argument.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for making my next point for me.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Sure that was totally your next point after being ignorant with your previous one.

Now should we have the debate about how IP is a tool to exploit human culture and gatekeep usage of it? That art shouldn't be a profit driven incentive? Collages are art, yet they use other peoples work to produce something new. Because that argument boils down to the problems of capitalism, not LLMs.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And until we stop living under capitalism it is indeed a problem.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So hate capitalism if that's the root problem.

LLM's are simply a tool and as we can see from OPs image they can be used for good political commentary. People used to hate on digital art for stealing the work of hand drawn artists as well, nowadays we realise that's a silly idea.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A gun is a dumb tool too, and harmful to individuals and society unless regulated.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If individuals don't have guns, none can stand up to the fascists when they come knocking. Under no pretext and all that jazz.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The pic above could have been made it photoshop. LLMs not necessary.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That would have taken an hour or two at the least to Photoshop. If you value artists you should value their time.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay. That’s the dumbest fucking shit you’ve said this whole time. An HOUR? 60 minutes? I could do it in like, ten with Microslop Paint. Wtf.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been doing digital art for 30 years now, but sure go on do it in paint. I'll see you back here in 10 minutes.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@athatet@lemmy.zip 10 minutes are up, time to submit your work.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck off. You’re not my mom.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Stop making bullshit claims like you could do it in 10 minutes in paint.

To get anywhere near this quality of work it would take an hour or two. Simply finding good images of a person holding a phone and the car in the same angle perspective of the original tank-man photo would take more than 10 minutes alone.

You are completely dishonest in your interactions, ignorant in every way of the subject matter, and a liar.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean I guess bud. I really don’t give a shit. It doesn’t have to look quality to get the point across.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is a 10 minute paint job.

image

I assure you that would not get the eyes on it that OPs AI image did. Quality does matter.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmao. Are you still on this? Go to bed.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago

But mum it's only 5pm.