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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I used a coffee maker for 10 years and to replace it my in-laws got me a nice espresso machine. They're into coffee. I am not.

See, I'd always make a pot of black coffee and pour it into some instant hot cocoa instead of cream and sugar.

When I do the same with fancy espresso shots now I feel like I am directly assaulting Italia.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

When Angelo Moriondo invented what ultimately became the espresso machine, he didn't do it to make coffee fancier, or better, or more exclusive, or more pure. He did it specifically to make coffee faster. Absolutely every other aspect of an espresso shot is a total afterthought.

Remember that the next time some pretentious dingus in a turtleneck is prattling at you about goddamn beans.

(And while we're at it, nobody in Italy used a tomato for anything until, near as we can determine, the 1540s. Tomatoes came from the new world; they didn't exist in Europe until they were brought back there. Anyone claiming that their modern tomato based Italian cookery is proud tradition dating back to antiquity is thus likewise full of it.)

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

He did it specifically to *make coffee faster.

That's why he gave it that name. And not the supremo or whatever. It was the quick coffee machine.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I dunno though, Italy didn't even form as a kingdom until the 1860s, so an entire culture formed as an afterthought seems perfectly Italian.

[–] miked@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Tomatoes came from Mexico to be exact.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

See, I'd always make a pot of black coffee and pour it into some instant hot cocoa instead of cream and sugar.

Nah, just call it a mocaccino and you're good.