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Numerous Tesla owners have said they've been stuck inside their EVs after the cars suddenly lost power.

YouTuber Tom Exton claimed that his Tesla Model Y ordered him to pull over before it suddenly lost power and left him unable to exit.

Exton followed the instructions for the manual release to open the door, but he said this "somehow broke the driver's window."

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't know if that's a tesla thing, or just cars in general these days (as I have an old vehicle and don't ride in many others), but not having a fucking manual door opener seems really, really dumb.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it's over engineering at it's finest. Also included is the motorized pop-out door handles.

[–] rolaulten@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So the pop out handles on evs make a little sense. The goal is to reduce wind drag as much as possible. At least on mine (not a Tesla) you can still interact with the handle without the car exposing it.

Not having a manual way to open from the inside? No way in hell is that ok.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The wind drag on the handles is so negligible youd see a larger performance boost simply washing the bugs off the surface.

Cars aren’t moving fast enough that such short protrusions really matter.

It isn’t until cars start getting to race speeds that aerodynamic forces become … important.

Does it reduce drag? Yes. Is it smart to do so? Not so much. This is like all the cars that pulled out spares to get under the Obama era mpg requirements. Does it increase mileage? Sure. Is it smart to do so?

[–] glue_snorter@lemmy.sdfeu.org 0 points 2 years ago

No. Wind drag on handles is most certainly not negligible. Even small protrusions on an otherwise smooth surface can have a significant effect. That effect is hard to model - you can't just eyeball it.

Drag is proportional to windspeed squared.

Aero matters to fucking cyclists. It absolutely 100% matters to motor vehicles, especially in the context of EV range anxiety.

Just don't fucking dunning-kruger, FFS. Surely you realise that automotive engineers have specific education that you don't have. I don't mind you being wrong, it's the arrogance that pisses me off.

[–] Pseu@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's only a small handful of cars that have primarily electronic door handles. Teslas are the worst because opening the door without power is very different than opening it with power and sometimes breaks the window. I think it was Mercedes or someone who has a power lock but the manual release is part of the same lever, you just pull it out farther.

[–] BrainisfineIthink@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also wasn't there a famous video of BMW showing how to mechanically perform every task on their all electric sports car? From car doors to hood releases to way more niche things 99.9999% of people will never use or even know exists?

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It was the I8. The techs were talking about all the little things you can do to break stuff on the car because of how insanely designed it all was. The techs kept breaking the door releases, and you need to jam screwdrivers in the hinge for the hood which requires at least two people to open to avoid breaking or deforming it.