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There's a record breaking heatwave in the sea. Here is why it hit so hard and what it means (www.abc.net.au)

submitted 2 years ago by Wiggles@aussie.zone to c/environment@aussie.zone

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[–] Wiggles@aussie.zone 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Am I being crazy thinking that if Australia was reamed by extreme weather this summer it would be better than not, as all the climate change deniers will use non-extreme weather as a 'see the climate isn't warming' argument. At least if this summer was fucked up, they would then have a more difficult time arguing climate change doesn't exist, which could be good timing as extreme weather is still dependant on local and global climate patterns, so there will be a return to less extremes once La Nina returns.

At the same time, more extreme weather is the last thing I want people to have to experience, especially as those who suffer the most from the extreme weather will probably be those least likely to deny climate change.

In summary, I think I'm being a little crazy sitting here hoping shit burns to the ground to prove a point.

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

yeah disagree on this tbh. I mean it's inevitable anyway, but given 2019 didn't change anything I wouldn't expect a repeat to do so either

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I do think 2019 (and flooding after it) helped convince "don't really care" types to take it seriously. Trying to convince conservatives of much of anything is a losing battle, but you can convince the rest.

[–] Wiggles@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, fair enough. I guess part of me sharing that thought was because I recognised it was pretty drenched in schadenfreude, and was interested to see what people thought.

The last thing I really want is more disastrous weather to occur. Bring back the 1 every 100 year disasters I say.

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

sorry I hope I didnt imply it as a value judgement, we all deal with the slow crawl of impending doom in our own ways. Like sticking your head in the sand, as you noted lol.

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the this-is-fine to elmofire pipeline

[–] Wiggles@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Oh no, I didn't think it was meant that way. I just took it as hoping for catastrophic weather in the hope it will convince enough people will probably backfire. To which, you are probably correct.