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[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When will it be enough that people actively start opening fire on ICE the second they pull out to their street? This is getting ridiculous. Not even white women are safe.

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

The problem is that's when he "gets" to declare Marshall Law and take over the government and the military.

So far, judges have denied him access to military even though he keeps screaming about terrorists and buildings burning, when really there are people in frog costumes and people with whistles.

Hitler took control of German government and military the second a building caught fire. This is likely what he's trying to make happen.

Elections happen this year that could generate some congressional power challenges against his orders with more urgency. How much hope do I have that elections even happen? Will several red states change last minute election rules and post office cancel ballot deliveries or straight up replace federal electors again? Will he make up a fake excuse to end elections or arrest opponents? Who knows. Once he steals power instead of having it with legitimacy is when gloves have to come off. In the meantime it has to stay peaceful. We dug this hole ourselves at this point.

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

At some point you have to say enough is enough instead of coming out with this stupid ass excuse.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” - Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts

I don't think people calling for restraint understand what we're up against.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's pretty stunning how they talk like terrorists and abusers and people just go with it.

But I guess I know from experience that conservative culture has a lot of "shut up and deal with it" conditioning. And not like "practicing stoicism is good for you" dealing with it. It's more like "know your place, respect your betters, and shut your mouth."

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's the "might makes right" approach.

Most of us get educated about why that's bad in pre-school. Nobody likes a bully and often bullying is ended with a swift punch in the face from the victim. People like Stephen Miller just haven't got theirs yet.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump can declare war without even telling congress about it. What makes you think he needs something real in order to "declare martial law"? At what point are you going to decide that NOT FIGHTING BACK is actually helping these people trample you?

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

As mentioned by others in this thread, the courts has repeatedly taken away his access to national guard because he is failing to show evidence of a domestic threat

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 15 points 3 days ago (15 children)

He's already stolen power. He's admitted multiple times that they rigged the election.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

*Martial Law

"Marshall [Plan]" is his bullshit excuse for attacking Venezuela.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump is going to declare Marshall Law anyway. Fighting back will only accelerate it. Regardless, Marshall Law isn't a real thing in the United States. Although that won't stop the president in the high castle.

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He is allowed to take over state militaries in emergency situations. I also agree that I think he's going to make up an excuse and do it anyway at some point before elections.

A lot of what he is getting away with is stuff that Congress could block. It's their appropriate money he's using, but they're all his tools right now so they don't fight back and just let him do it.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] BossDj@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Courts keep denying him access

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's gonna do that anyway come midterms, no?

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that’s when he “gets” to declare Marshall Law and take over the government and the military.

Practically speaking, how is that any different from now?

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago (22 children)

Do you really think this is as bad as it can get?

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[–] dumbluck@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Man known for lying. Says a possible lie. More at 11

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Bro fix your spelling. Your point is good and Marshall is HEAVILY undermining your content.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Hopefully soon