MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Spending taxes on goods and services for the public is socialism's barest definition. Roads are socialism. Libraries are socialism.
You want to know what's not socialism? The USSR.
By this logic all governments thought history are socialist. So what's the purpose of the word? Without meaning to sound rude, you are simply incorrect. Socialism is not "spending taxes good". The barest definition might be economic democracy. My own barest definition would be workers controlling the means of production.
Socialism and Communism are the only words in the English language to describe a system of production and redistribution of goods owned by the workers and the general public.
The fact that these words are also defiled and poisoned by autocratic militaristic dictatorships like the USSR, China, etc is just the circumstances we find ourselves in.
Their antonyms would be Mercantilism or Capitalism, though mixing of the systems can exist due to the complex nature of markets and society, wherein privatization produces goods and services based on profitability.
Yes. That's correct
Socialism isn't just when the government "does stuff" bucko. It involves the restructuring of political economy to one where workers are in charge of state apparatus
Perhaps such a system could involve workers voting on how best to allocate resources?
Yes. Socialism isn't one thing. There are different ways of structuring socialism; the most important thing is that the workers hold power. Your description aligns with the anarchist view.
I just described when the government “does stuff” bucko.
The biggest joke here is you think governments represent workers
It's called Democracy.
Riiiiight. Keep telling yourself that