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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Where is your second amendment Americans, you are all cowards for allowing this to continue

[–] Soulg@ani.social 63 points 4 days ago (45 children)

Saw this posted somewhere. Not my words, but I and many Americans I know agree with this:

"To everyone outside the US who's angry at Americans right now, especially those of us who hate Trump and feel trapped: Please understand this. We do not elect our president the way you think we do. Millions of us voted against him. Millions of us are terrified of the damage being done. We are not cheering this on. We are living inside it. If you're wondering why we don't just "revolt like the French" or "fix it" here is the reality of being an American right now:

Our system is rigid, slow, and stacked in ways that make "just revolt" a fantasy. We don't have a culture where mass strikes shut the country down overnight. We don't have a centralized government you can pressure in one city. We have fifty states, militarized policing, surveillance, debt, and jobs tied to health insurance. For many people, losing a job for protesting means losing healthcare and housing.

France is smaller than Texas. Organizing a "national" revolt across 3.8 million square miles (9.8 million square km) and 330 million people isn't just difficult, it's logistically close to impossible. That doesn't mean we're complacent. It means we're constrained. Anger at US power is fair. Fear of US decisions is fair. But blaming every American, especially those who are fighting, exhausted, and scared alongside you, misses the mark.

We're not watching this from the sidelines. We're stuck in the same burning house. Just closer to the fire."

Edit: I believe credit goes to Jason Gervase, ASL Pinnacle

[–] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not to dismiss the general sentiment of the message, but do you think french people go across the country to protest? Do you think we don't have rent or mortgages to pay? Do you think our police isn't violent?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 6 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I think French people have many more social safety nets to support them and that their police is not even remotely as violent as ours.

As for going across the country, that is directly addressed, France is very small compared to the entirety of the US.

I don't actually really care about all the morons responding negatively to the copy/paste, I'm going to keep posting it. Europeans simply have it so much better than we do that they are completely unable to fathom that it's so different in the US, which I would say is great, if so many of them weren't such fucking cunts that believe themselves inherently superior by factor of country of birth that they feel the need to be so hateful online towards the people who are suffering from all of this, far, far worse than they are. They confidently demand violence and blood with zero comprehension of any nuance about the situation, understanding that not everyone fucking lives in or can get to Minneapolis on a days notice to kill ice agents or whatever.

[–] lmagitem@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hundreds of people lost eyes, hands, legs and arms to flashballs and grenades during the yellow vests protests. A few were even killed. And there is no count of how many were wounded not that gravely.

When people don't have money to go on strikes we organize caisses de grèves which are funds collected by unions to be given to the strikers, from people who have more money or cannot strike themselves.

Our ancestors died under live round fire to win the protections we have now, and we're fighting to keep them every year. If you never start you'll never have anything.

Iranians are currently protesting nationwide to overthrow the fuckers on top, a lot of them have died or have been thrown in jail without due process or anything.

When the Ukrainians revolted against the russian-backed regime, a lot of them died too.

Fighting for your rights is always risking something. If you don't do it now, countless more citizens of the US and other countries will die or lose everything. It's already happening en masse with ICE targeting people of color. It will only get worse from there.

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The revolution will not be paid hourly. The revolution will not come with a salary.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I'd tshirt that.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

their police is not even remotely as violent as ours.

Just for your sake: the current administration in France considers you can't complain if you lose a hand or an eye or end up in a coma if you're present in a non-authorized protest, even if you're not remotely violent. The protest ban can be a piece of paper displayed on a door in front of an admin building AFTER the protest started.

And still, there are protests, and protesters still defy bans.

So yes, for sure, US police kills way more people than the French one. But protesting in France is not as safe as you may think.

France is very small compared to the entirety of the US.

True, but beyond a certain scale, it doesn't matter. You can't just make a few phone calls and organize a general strike. And US can totally manage its scale by the way: you had simultaneous protests in many large cities.

The main difference is probably the organization body: France has country wide unions. Unions are not based on work sector, they are representing more political positioning. So if the "base" is willing, union leaders can propose strikes, and if it's a national political matter, it can become a general strike.

But just like you had massive protests, you can have general strikes.

Europeans simply have it so much better than we do that they are completely unable to fathom that it’s so different in the US

"Europeans" are not a single homogenous body, and "have it better" does not mean much. Since you were talking about France: 10% of the population depends on food banks. 30% cannot afford 3 meals a day. 40% struggles with their bills. I don't know the numbers in the US, but they would vary state by state and then city by city and by ethnicity, etc. … just like they do in France. So some Europeans have it better than some US folks… and vice-versa. What matters at the end is who can do what and do these people have the will to act?

if so many of them weren’t such fucking cunts that believe themselves inherently superior by factor of country of birth

I'm pretty sure I read very similar comments about Americans believing strongly in their exceptionalism… Again: no country has that level of homogeneous thinking…

They confidently demand violence and blood with zero comprehension of any nuance about the situation, understanding that not everyone fucking lives in or can get to Minneapolis on a days notice to kill ice agents or whatever.

You stand exactly 0 chance to win a civil war if you're in the rebel side anyway. Gereral strikes is what make governments fall outside of elections. And it's very painful for all. The question is: more painful than what's to come?

[–] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

As for going across the country, that is directly addressed, France is very small compared to the entirety of the US.

My point is that french people don't travel to protests, they're local events by and large. You don't need to travel far away to participate. You don't need to go to Minnesota to protest ICE killing people.

I'll skip the part where you're acting like a xenophobic asshole, I choose to believe you are only upset about the situation, and simply wish you best of luck in your struggles.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

the people who are suffering from all of this, far, far worse than they are.

You mean all the victims of US's foreign policy in the last decades?
I agree.

[–] JTode@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I read that as "I refuse to imagine anything but this, sorry about causing WWIII but we have forgotten the 1930s and you are all going to have to save us because we have become Eloi."

This statement fills me with real and bitter contempt.

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[–] made3@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Basically you say you are fucked and your hands are tied. The pedo-president and his folks can do whatever they want now. Thanks, that's nice.

But either way, in my opinion the anger is still justified. You could and should have fought more before the elections to try and convince Trump voters to not vote for him.

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[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This was not a coup. Trump won the majority of the popular vote. On top of that, millions and millions of Americans chose not to vote because they felt like letting Trump win was preferable to voting for an uninspiring candidate. The vast majority of Americans actively contributed to this happening, one way or another.

I am sad for the few true victims, those that actively and passionately campaigned against this and tried to open other people's eyes to the reality of the situation. But I also completely understand the generalised resentment towards America and Americans that many in the rest of the world are feeling.

Remember, you might feel like you're trapped in a burning house. We feel like we are trapped in an apartment building with our hands tied, forced to watch powerlessly as our bottom floor neighbour allows their maladapted child to set fire to their apartment and drag our entire building into hell while we can do nothing about it.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

He won due to pure propaganda and a decades long plan to treat American citizens like cattle.

The masses are stressed, overworked, in fear of food/housing/health insurance.

They're also dumbed down from dismantling public education and brainrot of mass media.

Media is controlled by the owning class and the owning class is going to protect thier interests. They wanted a puppet in office they can head-pat to further hoard thier money like brainless lizards.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

But you have to understand, that while there is millions of good Russians, they still face the same general hate towards their country as long as they are a fucking threat to our lives. It means so little, when we have no idea who to trust. It's not like all russians who supports putin, is wearing red hats Saying maga, so we can filter the bad ones from the good ones. All good People faces the same consequences, that was chosen by the majority. As long as you Guys votes "America first" we vote "America Last".

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

If you don’t save your democracy/country soon it’s only going to get worse/harder to do so

[–] C1pher@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Its sad. Our reality version of Cyberpunk 2077. Get people dependent on the system and fuck them over and over again.

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yet Trump won the "popular" vote. I don't want to condone those who did vote against Trump. But damn... the popular vote... that really made me loose trust in the majority of the US population. To me it only makes sense if > 1/2 of the US population is seriously mentally ill (which it likely is). Otherwise it's purely contradictionary to vote against your own interests (or let others decide in case of not voting).

Nah sorry about the few who are doing something and voted for the Dems. But not sorry for the rest of the population, they really dragged the reputation of the US into the deepest of sloppy slime (or something along these lines). And likely caused global instability (especially for the "west").

[–] diykeyboards@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One clarification: Not > 1/2 population, rather >1/2 voter turnout (about 64%) so about one third total population. They are a loud, stupid minority, but they show up to vote.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

I don't own a gun, it's not required. If I did, I wouldn't run out in the street and just start shooting people because that's fucking insane.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I love Lemmy because of the way people of voting on comments on this thread. People are sharing their true feelings instead of the brainwashed safe for Reddit opinions that people have been conditioned to share online.

G g g guys.... Don't fight back, that's what he wants. Just get a shovel and dig a hole in your backyard and bury yourself in it. It's the only way to stop the violence...

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

They're now working for ICE

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