MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in unrelated arguments.
Brigading — If you're here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from voting, commenting or manipulating the post in any way, this includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be permanently banned.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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You got banned because you are full of shit and asking everything in bad faith cos you’re a fucking magat
Okay, but what would you tell someone who was asking in good faith? Like if a 10 year old asked, what would you tell them?
See, the thing you have to understand is, they're not interested in that question. They're trying to "win." That's why ad hominem is so important: They can just say you're bad-faith, and then strut off victorious. It's actually a disadvantage if they engage factually.
Why that is, is an exercise for the reader...
I do actually understand that, but someone who doesn't can see this exchange and learn it for themselves.
quite well put
OP was quite poorly behaved in the post that they are referencing, acting in bad faith as a troll completely uninterested in thinking or learning about the topic.
The ignorance and incuriousity is exemplified by the irresponsible use of the term "tankie", seeming to be a conflation with all socialists or leftists, or simply everyone whose position they personally fail to understand and refuse to respect.
Some bullishness is generally warranted as a response to those who refuse to examine their own behavior.
Feel free to answer the question. "Tankie" is by absolutely no means a conflation with all socialists or leftists. Tankies are right-wing, which is why we don't like them.
Again, feel free to answer the fairly basic question, IDK how you can refuse to do that and preemptively accuse any and every listener of being obviously incurious about the answer. You have no idea who's reading this who you now have the opportunity to make a sensible argument to.
You seem confused.
My best suggestion is that you reread the thread from the beginning, preferably when your head is more clear.
Sounds like you're incurious
Did you reread the thread from the beginning?
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So what's your answer?
OK bot.
Aren't you a little bit curious about what the answer might be?
If you don't know the answer, I can help provide it. Maybe it might spark some kind of curiosity on your part...
(I feel like you're not trying very hard to engage productively here lol)
You need to be rebooted.
You're being quite poorly behaved in these comments, acting in bad faith as a troll completely uninterested in thinking or learning about the topic. The ignorance and incuriousity is exemplified, I think.
But that's not a surprise lol. I'm done now, just making the point for the record. Have fun with your trolling, I hope your engagement with your specific chosen style of engagement goes really well for you and leads you to happiness about your participation.
I assumed you were confused, but now it is plain that you are comprehensively deranged.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/05/media/nyt-and-wapo-held-reporting-about-maduro-raid-drawing-rare-praise-from-secretary-of-state-marco-rubio/
And also dont be stupid and think this is the first or last time fhey will do this.
You would answer a 10 year old child's question with a link to an article with a statement that would leave them feeling like you think they're stupid? If you can't explain something in terms a child could understand I don't think you fully understand it either.
Some things arent simple enough for child minds. Such is the problem with all the flat earth and anti vaccine shit going around. Just because you dont understand something doesnt mean it isnt right or that you have any grounds to question it.
As I stated in the original comment of what OP posted, the cartoon isn’t ambiguous
I see you aren't interested in answering the question.
Bingo
So you're engaging in bad faith? You have no intention of having an actual discussion, you just want an argument?
Your conclusion is completely unsound.
OP is a troll whose questions were addressed despite their complete lack of sincerity.
No one should feel compelled to continue engaging such a bad actor with any earnestness.
No, I don't think it is.
OP got banned and called names for asking a question.
That's how I feel about the people who banned someone for asking a question.
No one is being banned from the community simply for asking questions, if they are constructive and sincere.
Please stop being obtuse.
OP is a disruptive troll who was banned for deliberately antagonizing the community.
Yes they are.
No.
No.
You are as smug and simple as OP. It is no wonder you feel such an affinity.
Yea, how dare I have an opinion that's wrong
You and OP are both trolls.
No.
Yawn
I'm Donald Trump's biggest hater, unlike you fuckin Tankies who looove and cheeerrish him so much.
Quite a childish, troll response, just to reinforce how I’m right that you are only in here to waste everyone’s time with bullshit and I’ll keep letting everyone know it.
You came here to lie and talk shit, but I'm the troll?
That’s why you’re on lemmy in the first place. Your bullshit will work better back over on Reddit with the rest of the dumbass wet blankets.
I am not on lemmy, at all. I am on PieFed because the PieFed devs are NOT pro-war, pro-genocide, pro-Russia, and Transphobic like the Lemmy Devs are.
So you’re admitting you have a vendetta and were commenting on that post in bad faith, as I have been saying. You were never interested in an answer in the first place, you just were looking for a fight.
I asked knowing you couldn't answer, and I was proven right.
You’re still just defining “bad faith argument”
If you had an answer then the question would have helped you make your point and spread your beliefs. Because you could not answer, it hurt your stance. That's not bad faith, that's just your skill issue.
If someone is there obviously to antagonize people, then there really isn’t a point in any engagement with them other than mirroring their bullshit for entertainment. You can keep saying how dumb I am that I don’t have an answer to the question but I also don’t know who you are and don’t give a single fuck if you think I’m dumb or not. I’ll waste your time like you’re trying to waste others with bullshit bait questions.
People don't have to agree with you in order to have a fair and honourable debate.
Again, no point when the person is doing it in bad faith, as you have already admitted.