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I don't care about Maduro, as far as I'm concerned, they can shoot him if they want. What matters to me is walking through the streets of my city and seeing the faces of fear on my neighbors. The military patrolling to prevent looting due to panic. It's a collective hangover, a horrible one.

It's 2016 all over again. It's seeing despair entering the circulatory system of all Venezuelans, only now it's more sudden, and we are painfully aware of it.

This is far from improving, and we know it.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don’t care about Maduro, as far as I’m concerned, they can shoot him if they want.

First they came for the Communists and I said nothing...

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maduro isn't a Communist, none of the current Chavistas is, they aren't even true "Socialist", the last one was Chavez and he die.

The real communist party of Venezuela, PCV was botched by the Chavistas, turning it in a mere shadow of its former self, a really sad thing to see from one of the oldest parties of my country.

Maduro and the current Chavistas aren't just a disgrace for the Left as a whole but also the legacy of Chavez, which wasn't the best, but at least he DID SOMETHING more than perpetuate his power while alive.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The real communist party of Venezuela, PCV was botched by the Chavistas, turning it in a mere shadow of its former self, a really sad thing to see from one of the oldest parties of my country.

Its "former self" was trash. It collapsed because it broke the law.

  • 1996: Óscar Figuera becomes general secretary.
  • 2013: Maduro comes to power, who begins consolidating PSUV state power and building coalitions, gradually leading to divides between pro-PSUV and anti-PSUV factions based on whether or not to work within a coalition or to oppose a coalition.
  • 2016: Figuera, leading the anti-PSUV faction, becomes afraid he'll be ousted by the pro-PSUV faction, so he puts a complete freeze on any party assemblies or internal congresses so there cannot be elections or anything voted on.
  • 2021: Figuera begins to expel pro-PSUV members, most notably Henry Parra for having endorsed a PSUV member. This led to Parra becoming a symbol of "resistance" against Fuegara.
  • May 2023: Many members of PCV meet in secret to finally host the first congress since 2016 without Figuera's approval where they elect Parra as their new leader. Figuera decried this as a "fake congress" and the results of the vote didn't count.
  • August 2023: In Venezuela, you have to register parties, so legally there can only be one PCV, so this dispute led to intervention by the Supreme Tribunal of Justice which sided with Parra's faction as Figuera's refusal to hold elections for a registered party violated Article 67 of Venezuela's constitution which requires that all parties allow for democratic participation of its members, and also used the turnover rate in the party was absurdly low such as Figeura himself being in power for 27 years as additional evidence that it was restricting participation.
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maduro isn’t a Communist, none of the current Chavistas is, they aren’t even true “Socialist”

The Mission system of a fully public state financed planned economy is about as explicitly socialist as economies come.

The real communist party of Venezuela, PCV

It is the oldest active political party in Venezuela, and was the country's main leftist party until it fractured into rival factions in 1971. In 2023, the Party split again on the issue of support or opposition to the government of Nicolás Maduro

So... the party of real communists, many of whom support Maduro... they're not going to be targeted for assassination now that Maduro's gone, right?

at least he DID SOMETHING more than perpetuate his power while alive.

Real piece of shit for maintaining power rather than handing it over to the reactionaries.

Why couldn't Maduro be more like a real hero, Allende?

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Mission system of a fully public state financed planned economy is about as explicitly socialist as economies come.

None of that is actually happening? Despite the "supposedly" socialist government, private companies have gained greater power over how the economy is run and, more importantly, over workers. In recent years, Maduro's government has been actively working against workers.

So... the party of real communists, many of whom support Maduro... they're not going to be targeted for assassination now that Maduro's gone, right?

Assassinated by whom? Trump? Maybe, I don't know. They might wipe out all the parties that align themselves with the left, which would be almost all the historical parties such as the PCV and Acción Democrática.

Real piece of shit for maintaining power rather than handing it over to the reactionaries.

Okay, I admit I expressed myself poorly. What I meant to say was: Chávez did much more for the country than just perpetuate his power, unlike Maduro. Much of what he did, however, was built on sand, which meant that when he died, everything collapsed the moment Maduro took power.

What Maduro and his entourage have been doing is trying to keep a sinking ship afloat.

And i don't want Maduro to be like Allende, but he could at least have been more like Chávez, and then we wouldn't be in this mess.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

None of that is actually happening?

Misión Barrio Adentro is, what? A figment of the imagination of millions of people?

4.6M homes built by the GMVV aren't real?

You might as well deny the existence of the US Post Office.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Barrio Adentro was idea of Chavez, not Maduro's, Misión Vivienda as well, Chavez couldn't complete them while alive.

The only socialist mission Maduro did was Misión CLAP, and that was and emergency because we where literally starving cuz of Maduro's incompetence dealing with the private sector and its hoarding.

Once again, Chávez would have done better...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Barrio Adentro was idea of Chavez, not Maduro’s

And the USPS was an idea of Ben Franklin's it didn't disappear on his death.

Maintaining and administering socialist programs is socialism. You don't need to reinvent the wheel with every new government.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maintaining and administering socialist programs is socialism.

So the programs are the only thing that matters?

Okay, I admit it. The programs exist. With their ups and downs, they work, and I can say with certainty that without CLAP, my family and I would have starved to death in 2016, and without Barrio Adentro, I would have died of COVID in its day. That's one of the things that keeps me on the left despite living in Venezuela: I know the programs, the ideas, work...

But they're not enough.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

So the programs are the only thing that matters?

Material conditions trump ideology, yes.