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How do people actually fall into the "Tankie" mindset? (anarchist.nexus)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by stinky@anarchist.nexus to c/anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying "99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in 'Tiny Man Square' [...] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda [...]," I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn't change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.

I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.

Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?

EDIT: Thank you to everyone who has responded! This thread has been very insightful :)

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's also a valuable insight that authoritarian regimes like USSR and China can just disregard the will of their own populace when it fits their interests. Should probably be point of out what an abject failure states are and what a farce it is to defend red states as "the will of the people"

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, I don't think that comes as news to anyone who has heard about US healthcare. The fact that the people however wanted a vanguard party, that people aren't just desolate and downtrodden under communism but actually hopeful about the future was extremely insightful news to me.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

People can be happy about monarchies. Monarchies are still fucking bad!

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok? Still after years of hearing otherwise this kind of insight is what broke me out of capitalist propaganda.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm happy for you. All I say is, don't trade one propaganda for the next

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk this lenin guy sounds pretty good to me (I'm reading State and Revolution rn)

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lenin wrote different things than what he actually did.