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Punishment as a deterrent hasn't worked for the entirety of human civilization. Otherwise we would have fewer murders than other countries as we continue to be one of the few places that cling to capital punishment. There will always be monsters. I won't argue that murder isn't justified, but it also isn't a "solution" in the strictest sense. Fear is what you're talking about and it is a fickle master.
Ok fair enough, and you might be right, maybe even probably right. Idk. But I think this glosses over a point I was trying to make.
It is the extreme wealthy and powerful who essentially have little or no consequences, yet they are causing all of our problems and hardships and suffering. They have nothing to fear. They have little or no accountability.
"The history says it doesn't work" isn't enough for me. Are you talking about the 1400s when some peasants tortured and killed some malevolent king? I haven't seen or heard anything like this to make enough of an impact where we can say "all the malevolent leaders are being killed by their peasants, yet they continue to treat their peasants cruelly, therefore torturing them doesn't work". Most historical torture was inflicted by the leaders, on the peasants, for various reasons.
The argument you are making, which I have heard before, is EXACTLY the belief I would want the poors to think and spread if I was at the top of the powerful elites.
Obviously I am not condoning torture or violence.