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You forgot "unconditionally supports russian imperialism and repeats its propaganda incessently" .. wait, this isn't lemmy.ml 🫠
That prompts an interesting question: Is there a symbol for international communism that's recognizable to the general public?
Besides the hamsickle and its unfortunate connotations, there's the red flag and, if we count them in the same group, the various bits of symbolism anarchists use.
The hammer and sickle, no? The British communist party uses it to this day, at least
The initialism there is more unfortunate than the symbol.
Yeah, I don't like how it excludes potential allies or how it's focused on suddenly achieving its end state more than the idea that constructive change is an incremental, continuous process. How about, "Communists and Socialists for Advancement in Moderation?"
They should form an alliance with the Party for Elevating Democratic Objectives
That must be the closest thing. It's absent on communist/socialist national flags, but most of their dominant parties seem to use it.
I don't think there is a single one, but there are definitely styles that make you think it. Red themes, tools and machinery, fists in the air, etc.
This one of my favorites for Fully Automated Luxury Gay/Queer Space Communism. I doubt how widely it's known, though.
Wow, what a... memorable flag. Are these scythes with other scythes as a handle ? doubling as Saturn and its moons ?
Yeah, it's definitely a reference to the hammer and sickle symbol. I think it's either the Earth, the Moon and Mars or else non-specific planets and/or moons. I had to zoom in to take a closer look:
Oh, now I see it bigger... Is that Bezos's cock rocket?
PS,
We never needed rockets.
Follow the tech arc from Michael Faraday through to Nikola Tesla, passing by at least the Sonora Aero Club (and Charles Dellschau's 1850 drawings) and the german bell and foo-fighters, and you shall see... we never needed rockets. What wonders developed since. Zero inertia propulsion, zero-point energy, can print another of itself instantly, safe enough for a 2 year old to fly home safely in, able to sustain human life indefinitely... but sure, lets keep pretending like space is hard to do, and that rockets are the best we can do it by. XD
That sounds like something you may want to back up with a bibliography
Several people tell me I should write a book.
Some of them even mean it as a compliment, insisting they'd buy and read it.
I doubt my research diligence or organisational skills though.
Just throwing pointers out there, for other researchers to pick up the threads of.
That does sound fascinating. I'm only vaguely aware of some of those concepts. Internet search results have been somewhat conflicting. Do you mind sharing links to your preferred site for explanations of these things?
Alas, I learned of such things over 20 years ago... scattershot across too many sources to have retained any... largely forums that likely no longer exist, or sites that the corporate search engines no longer list (I say cynically). I cant even think of any books to point to. Best of luck.
One other tidbit that sprung to mind, the wing tips of various once-secret black stealth fighter planes had basically the same tech [electromagnetic inertial dampening] along their wing tips, to increase the rate at which they could turn. Oh, and then there's the TR-3B that's been defacto desecreted for over a decade now, at least to those interested enough to look and not reflexively disbelieve because it's outside the world view they stubbornly incuriously cling to. Just for a couple examples of this stuff since Nikola Tesla's time, in "real world" for those disinclined to entertain the idea.
Sorry, I could have just said, "no, sorry, I don't". But... further to this ramble, a couple of interesting quotes (especially interesting considering who said them, and who they work(ed) for), adding some context, first perhaps dashing hope in the faithless defeatist minds, then re-availing hope of a kind:
“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity… anything you can imagine we already know how to do.” — Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works
“It is easier for us to pay a private contractor to re-invent something so it will come out at a lower classification level, than to try to declassify it.” – Bennett Hart, then Deputy Director of the National Reconnaissance Organization
(I should really look up and add the dates for those two quotes, since I throw them around so much. I think the former from the 1990s, and the latter from the early '00s).
Like the raised fist, that would be sucked up by the fascists in a split second.
Good point. That North American dictator has been working on it for a while
I'm sure some commenters on the .ml crosspost will have pointed that out 😉
(Just took a look - of course people who say that Stalinism was bad will get downvoted, same same)
I’ve literally never seen someone from lemmy.ml unconditionally support Russia. Stop making things up.
Hiya Flying. It's a joke with a grain of truth. Some vocal (and often well spoken) voices there see russia as a lesser evil than the US and its allies, but imho they go overboard and would rather see and forgive/justify/support russian aggression and its deadly consequences than seek peaceful paths to a more just world.
Also because Russia is now a semi-fascist far right state, as much as the US, if not worse. No idea how it happened that both self proclaimed communists and far right governments will fight and die for Putin.
Maybe the extremists are not those who support human rights, but those who support authoritarianism, from both sides of the spectrum.
You just might be right there. The road to hell and all that.
Otoh, we are living in a world where the rich and powerful have extraordinary influence over our lives through asymmetric application of power, technology and knowledge.. we are just pawns/players in systems, and if a system fails us, we might not have any recourse. It's one reason I value the ability to "vote with my feet" (thanks to international agreements and norms, plus my extraordinary good luck of having a strong passport, decent education and supportive family). If you are stuck in a shitty system, your options might be limited and your readiness to accept extremism and its risks will likely be higher.
Nobody should be lectured on propaganda by North American and European social democrats who infest Lemmy and spread propaganda to a much higher degree across most instances and communities.
It is clear that russian propaganda is the best propaganda. pats you on the head
Calling out hypocrisy is not the same as supporting the alternative. Two things can be wrong at the same time.
To put it in simple terms: Russian Imperial propaganda is bad but American Imperial neoliberal propaganda isn't any better just because they are at odds.
The whole "stones thrown from glass houses" thing.
Correct, you understood my point perfectly.
As an anti-imperialist, I get that kind of rebuttal A LOT. People cannot stand it when you bring light that all empires of the modern day got to their heights by being the most politically and socially manipulative parasites this world has ever seen.
European Social Democrats spreading propaganda? I've seen a lot of europeans talking about how life in central / northern europe differs from what happens in other parts of the world, but i wouldn't call that propaganda, just sharing experience. And it's only that you read more of us because the .ml instances and hexbear are the most defederated sites outside of instances with illegal content.
Oh, in your history books the Soviet Union does still exist. Tell me more!
You missed the joke, I guess.
edit: No need to downvote the guy
It looks like it still exists for Lavrov too
https://www.rokna.net/Section-political-23/1151109-lavrov-sparks-western-outrage-wearing-cccp-sweatshirt-in-alaska
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/514615.russland-wer-lenin-liest-lebt-gef%C3%A4hrlich.html
The new regime has taken over, just like with Stalin after Lenin.