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That's me quoting the person person above me hence the quote shift.
And that person was you. So unless you're saying you were stating a support for slavery you might want to rethink that genius attempt to discredit me.
Get the fuck out. Did you miss the part where you said...
...which was in reference to me saying "states rights is a bullshit excuse?
Which I literally screenshotted , highlighted, and made giant red arrows pointing to it.
Do I need to do that all in-text for you? Are you using a braille display or something?
Edit: Fuck it, went back to your original comment that prompted all of this. You sole position in there was that states rights was the founding principle of the Confederacy, and you even recognize there that it was complete bullshit excuse, but also claim that it was the sole cause for secession (and thus the civil war).
Yes their main complaint is that a slave in one state is a Freeman crossing the border to another. They complain about it at length and it was indeed the framework they attempted to use to legalize their secession. That's fairly common knowledge so I'm not sure why you would take issue with that nor do I see how you taste it as denial of slavery.
To which I replied
Which is accurate, something being idiotic does not make it unfactual. "They're stealing our jobs, they're all criminals" is a shitty excuse to attempt to deport millions does that at all change the fact that is the excuse they're trying to use? I say no but I'd love to know your opinion on it.
All this time and you didn't bother to find out what the actual contention was? Educators can't say it wasn't about states rights because it was, it's rooted in slavery sure but that's not the cause of the civil war both Jefferson Davis and Lincoln agree on this and notably slavery was never abolished in this country.
Un-fucking-beleiveable.
Well anyway, we've already established previously that you tacitly admitted to being a disingenuous troll, not sure why I'm bothering at this point anymore. Someone needed to counter your fake bullshit, and coming with direct quotes from you and actual links to actual references well establishes that you know what you are saying is a false re-writing of history to whitewash the fucking morons that betrayed the country to fight for the "right" to deny foundational rights and freedoms to others.
And when did we do that exactly?
It's not rewriting anything.
Let's go fact by fact.
Did the with use a framework of states rights to attempt to legalize seceding? Yes or no. No bullshit editorializing, yes or fucking no.
^^
You fucking tell me.
See. When pushed into a yes or no you simply refuse to answer.
Yes or no genius. Should be easy to answer.