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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What did they mean by Ai in the question? Better question, what did the responders think they meant?

Both the headline and the article made it clear that the survey was referring to generative AI — so the visible art slop that gives everything that nice shovelware look.

The survey in question is actually an ongoing project and there's a link to it in the article if you wanna share your own feelings.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it visible art? Is it written scripts? As I said in the other response would "brushing" a forest into a game world count as generative Ai?

We really need better terminology for this stuff

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As I said in the other response would “brushing” a forest into a game world count as generative Ai?

No, why would it?

[–] vrek@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't decide where to plant the trees. I didn't decide what type of trees to plant. The algorithm generated what it thought a forest would look like...

Isn't that generative? It's not a llm, it's not making a tree but combining multiple trees to make a forest.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it's putting conifers in a desert then sure it's generative AI, if it's following a predefined set of rules written by a human that govern tree placement and density, then it's procedural.

Minecraft is a good example, the rules that govern world generation are handwritten, they're not AI.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

This again restates my point. We need a definition of generative Ai... Everyone thinks they know what it means but most don't agree.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Alright. That wasn't clear to me. I'm against slop as well. But that's not really what generative AI means. That term encompasses text-to-speech output as well. Like for fantasy NPC characters. Some of them use reinforcement leaning as well so the lines are a bit blurry there. We also got speech input in modern flight simulators, that's pretty much gen AI. And maybe procedurally generated maps or dynamically spawning mobs, depending on how exactly it's implemented. Or what I said, an LLM-driven spaceship computer. Fan-made translations for Japanese games often start out with machine translation... I'm against slop artwork as well. Or the weird things EA does like replace human playtesters with AI feedback on the prototypes. That's likely going to have the same effect AI has on other domains.