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Children as young as 11 who demonstrate misogynistic behaviour will be taught the difference between pornography and real relationships, as part of a multimillion-pound investment to tackle misogyny in England’s schools, the Guardian understands.

On the eve of the government publishing its long-awaited strategy to halve violence against women and girls (VAWG) in a decade, David Lammy told the Guardian that the battle “begins with how we raise our boys”, adding that toxic masculinity and keeping girls and women safe were “bound together”.

As part of the government’s flagship strategy, which was initially expected in the spring, teachers will be able to send young people at risk of causing harm on behavioural courses, and will be trained to intervene if they witness disturbing or worrying behaviour.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No mention of what behavior they are talking about, misogyny is a pretty wide and often vague subject. It's almost like we're not supposed to know the details so we can't decide for ourselves if the behaviors need 'correcting' instead of taking their word at a claim of misogyny alone.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

I've been called a misogynist a lot. Mostly when I am confronting a woman about her crappy behaviour towards other people or myself. It's definable a term that is used to avoid accountability, or against anyone who doesn't agree with benevolent sexism towards women.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

TBF you are a tactless individual.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've never been called a misogynist my entire life. People have made unfair criticisms, people have made fair criticisms, but nobody called me a misogynist.

I wonder what kind of rhetoric you consistently have for people to dig up for this word in particular when speaking about you. Should make you wonder, probably won't.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

They dig it up because our society, in america at least, sees women as children and thinks they should not be responsible for the consequences of their actions, nor should they be financially independent from men.

I get it the most from women when I tell them I am not interested in financially supporting a woman and tell them they should pay their own bills rather than be dependent on men for financial solvency. Turns out a lot of people HATE that idea and think if you don't support women being financially dependent on men as a good life choice, you hate women.

I generally support the idea that men and women should be independent functional adults... and a lot of people see that as misogyny due to their gender bias assumption that men are to be providers/parents to women. And anyone who doesn't aspire to that type of a relationship is hates women, because the only 'proper' way to be a 'man' is to have a woman you take responsibility for emotionally and financially.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I get it the most from women when I tell them I am not interested in financially supporting a woman and tell them they should pay their own bills rather than be dependent on men for financial solvency

I have a feeling that you were called a misogynist less because of this opinion in and of itself, and more because you probably bring this up unsolicited and seething at any opportunity.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Aaand there we go. The misogynist is called a misogynist for being an actual misogynist.

Quick and easy demonstration.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

right, so if i don't want to pay off my girlfriends college debt. i hate women?

yeah that's exactly proving my point. according to you if I don't want to pay $75K of someone else's poor choices, and she is a woman... I hate women. if i was gay and dating a man and didn't want to pay off his debt, does that mean i hate men or a i hate homosexuals?

It can't be that I just hate entitled deadbeat people or that I want a partner who contributes equally to a relationship.

Which is precisely why people view me as hating women. Because I treat them as equals and expect equality from them.

[–] offspec@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"I've been called a misogynist a lot"

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

i've also been called gay a lot. and yet i have no sexual interest in men. weird how other peoples perceptions of you may be totally incorrect.

it's almost as if other people's opinions have no bearing on what we really are.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

to quote my uncle: "i'm not gay, i'm italian. it's easy to mix that up."

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, I am Italian.

People also assume I'm Jewish and argue with me when I tell them I am not. They insist that one of my parents must be Jewish and I'm just in denial or something.

lol

They insist that one of my parents must be Jewish and I’m just in denial or something.

u know that exact thought came to me so many times. That some of my grandparent must be jewish because ... idk it's just a vibe.