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These people obviously have unquestionable control over everything by wealth and influence. People underneath them suffer under their 'leadership' whether it is working unhealthy hours for shit pay to working in unsafe environments where they're subjected to abuse or harm.

Yet there are pockets of people, where if you express the desire of these kinds of people who lead to die, will defend them because reasons. The top reason being that they don't like the idea of life being taken away. However, the way I see it is that, if you are in high positions and anybody suffers by a big number because you're a poor leader or so. I think the idea of jail or any justice imposed sentence is beyond them.

Lots of people forget because it's been 5 years, but Trump allowed 350,000 americans to die under a mishandled pandemic. Was the pandemic going to take lots of lives anyways? Yes, but I argue that it could've been negated and handled better. But no, that's not what we saw happen.

And it is because of that kind of gross example, I wish death on Trump everyday, anyday.

And people argue "oh, he should be in jail to think about his crimes and the law will prevail" blah blah. People have been clamoring for jail time for lots of powerful people, only to find that very few of them do. To them, time is like money, they're too busy counting how many days they have left before they're back out and will attempt to re-capture their influence and wealth to resume what they did before again.

So I feel that by sentencing these people to death, we are taking away immediately, what enjoyment they have, in spending making hundreds to thousands to even millions of people suffer and having their lives be worse off.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 10 hours ago

I just think that dying is unethical in general and represents a maximal state of suffering (well, more a minimum of non-suffering, since you have no capacity to experience anything when you dont exist anymore, not maximal suffering in the "hell" sense. I know many or most people would disagree with me on that point, but its not something I feel like spelling out my reasons for at the moment.) I also do not believe in the concept of deserved suffering (that is to say, in my view suffering as punishment only has value in its capacity to rewire a person's future behavior, and that once you have achieved that so as to cause them to live without continuing whatever harms have led to the punishment, anything more is wrong, no matter what they've done, even if they were literally the most heinous person of all time). If you're actually in a position to execute them, then youre in a position to take their money and power too, pointing out that they rarely face justice isnt actually relevant to this, because if your legal system is too corrupted to hand out a jail sentence and make it stick, its also going to be too corrupted to hand out a death sentence and go through with it. These people arent wealthy because they're inherently good at making money, they're wealthy because wealth begets wealth and they either started with some or lucked out somewhere or have relations that have it, so if you both take their wealth and the wealth of their friends and relatives, how are they going to get it back?