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[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 112 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

As far as I know, that's not how epidurals work. Nothing goes to your brain. It just numbs the nerves in your spine and stops the pain signals from reaching your brain.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 13 hours ago

They still often (but not always) give you fentanyl or sufentanil. those feel pretty great especially when injected. Like people do crime for those

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 94 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What you are describing is how epidurals are supposed to work. If the epidural needle is a mm too deep, you can inject directly into the spinal fluid which does go to the brain and is probably pretty amazing.

[–] bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 35 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

You sound like you kinda know what you're talking about so... What's the down side? There's gotta be a reason not everyone's chasing this high.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 65 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I had a hernia at risk of strangulation. I was in the ER and, basically, the plan was to chill it and have a doctor try and just jam it back in.

Buddy was like "I'm going to wail on you pretty hard, you want fentanyl?". I was like "You're the doctor".

Anyhow, when that shit hit my veins I very loudly blurted "AAHHH, NNOOWW I GET IT".

The staff was like "what?" And I kinda fumbled out a "Never understood why people fuck with something so deadly, until now"

Anyhow, totally opened my eyes to why street drugs are such a problem for the homeless. They have tons of problems... but you get those drugs and within moments... all your problems just evaporate. Completely understand how wildly alluring that proposition would be.

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Same here but with diazepam. I went in to have my gallblader removed a while back and while I was waiting in preop, my anxiety was acting up. I told the nurse about it so they shot some diazepam into my IV. It was at that moment that I knew that I can never be safely prescribed a benzo. Holy shit, the amount of sheer calm that washed over me was mindblowing. I was as zen as the fucking Buddha. Everything was completely ok. My mellow could not be harshed. I have never in my life felt that at ease.

So I know damn well that I could not be trusted with a pill bottle full of that feeling. If I was given a bottle of benzos I would wreck myself faster than a self driving tesla in a construction zone.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Shit man, I hope you said as much (and had a cool doctor). I just recently had to have a similar talk with my doc based on past history, and I'm so glad my doc is super chill.

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 38 minutes ago

Oh, my psych asked about putting me on benzos before and I told him the same thing. I ain't about to risk fucking with one of the very few drugs where the withdrawls are actually lethal.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

Funny thing, that. I was prescribed a fairly high dose of Oxy daily for half a year, then Morphine and eventually some other stuff depending on the doctor in question. At one point in the hospital a doctor had to "feel me up" pre surgery and she told me it was going to hurt like hell and I was going to get IV Fentanyl beforehand so I could get through it. I was like "ooh, this'll be interesting" but it honestly did fuck all for me. She was wondering how the hell I could be hurting or even feel anything after the amount they gave me.

I was unlucky enough to have several surgeries just before 2020. It wasn't all that fun having to go cold turkey afterwards when not a single doctor suddenly had time to keep up with all my shit.

Weirdly enough I get high as hell from Tramadol of all things, which many dislike strongly. I guess I just metabolize that shit really well. I was on that for 3 years straight before I decided to wean myself off. I still have to eat some here and there since one of the surgeries was wildly unsuccessful but anyway, to each their own I guess.

I can see why people got hooked on Oxy though, holy shit. It's nice when you're truly hurting though.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

There's a reason why heroin got its name... 🥲

[–] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 60 points 19 hours ago

accidentally paralyzed

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Usually diminishing returns. At least with heroin, that's the issue.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

That's an issue with basically all drugs. Biology is amazing at adapting to its environment. Otherwise the many previous mass extinction events, uh... would've been a lot more massive.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

There's the ruining your life bit.

You're considering chasing it now and you're not even addicted yet. What happens when you decide it's good?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

God. Now I'm imagining some epidural addict rigging up a large series of hoists and pulleys to allow them to self-administer an epidural. Ain't no ingenuity like addict ingenuity.

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Just say no. The realization of culturally prescribed dreams is where it's at. All smart people know that.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] presoak@lazysoci.al -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I'm game! Do I inject it or...?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of people are just squeamish about needles and recreational narcotics I guess. If you can conquer your fears the world is your oyster.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, like yesterday's oyster.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Did you not read the part about a Fent derivative being injected into his spine? It's kind of the whole point of the follow-up text.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

It's that a properly administered epidural or spinal anesthesic wouldn't work that way.

NERDERY INCOMING

An epidural injects a numbing agent just outside of the spinal cord. The intent is to numb the nearby nerves as the anesthetic slowly diffuses into their roots and their corresponding section of spinal cord. It should not go into the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF).

What they're likely doing is an intrathecal injection for a spinal anesthesic, which does go into the CSF. That intensely numbs a portion of the body and is more common for surgery while conscious. The reason it's done is it's very effective while also using extremely small amounts of anesthetic. In other words, you barely feel it locally, much less systemically, because so little is used. That's the point.

You might ask how I know all of this. I've had three. The account in the original post is full of shit.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

It must be me being stupid then, because I thought he got both. By using the word injected, I thought he was administered two things. That's what I get for reading words.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, for a moment I was thinking ‘I have to ask for this next time’. Like, they killed me last time they sedated me, so I probably have a good excuse.

But is that really what that would be like?

Probably not, and I’d just wind up awake for surgery, which is less than ideal.